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1 posted on 12/22/2023 9:05:55 AM PST by MNDude
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10+ million since Biden took office is a problem? Our elected reps seem to think it’s fine.


2 posted on 12/22/2023 9:07:15 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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Look up Washington’s vision.


3 posted on 12/22/2023 9:09:15 AM PST by stevio (Fight until you die.)
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I think we'll be looking at seeing tens of thousands of starving immigrants breaking into people's homes and ransacking businesses across the nation.

Really? You obviously haven't visited South Texas.

4 posted on 12/22/2023 9:10:25 AM PST by eastexsteve
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They should be rounded up and sent home. Will any new president after Biden be able to deport them? They have been given court dates, years out, work permits, public benefits, etc. Can the government stop and turn these back?


5 posted on 12/22/2023 9:10:27 AM PST by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Islamic Hamas.)
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> A VERY low percent of these new arrivals will have any real job. <

Yep. There was a great wave of migration into the United States in the early 1900s. Back then, there was no welfare and plenty of factory work.

Now there is welfare and no factory work. So the times are fundamentally different. Bottom line: This has to end in disaster. There is no other possibility.


8 posted on 12/22/2023 9:12:42 AM PST by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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Apparently not................


10 posted on 12/22/2023 9:13:58 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Well, your headline is a binary question not requiring any further comment or elaboration, so just speaking for oneself, the answer would be “Yes”.


11 posted on 12/22/2023 9:14:19 AM PST by OKSooner ("You won't like what comes after America." - Leonard Cohen.)
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James Madison did, which is why the Framers added Article IV section 4 to the Constitution.

Madison was afraid that states will admit such large numbers of "alien residents" to the point that they become the majority of the people in the state. These people, Madison suggests, would become "an unhappy species of population" living below the average means ("are sunk below the level of men") who ultimately resort to riots and violence to elevate their cause with the purpose of rallying support.

This latter prediction is coming true right now with the riots of 2020 and the open borders allowing millions of aliens to enter the country uncontrolled and unaccounted.

From Federalist #43 (James Madison):

6. "To guarantee to every State in the Union a republican form of government; to protect each of them against invasion; and on application of the legislature, or of the executive (when the legislature cannot be convened), against domestic violence.

...A protection against invasion is due from every society to the parts composing it. The latitude of the expression here used seems to secure each State, not only against foreign hostility, but against ambitious or vindictive enterprises of its more powerful neighbors. The history, both of ancient and modern confederacies, proves that the weaker members of the union ought not to be insensible to the policy of this article. Protection against domestic violence is added with equal propriety. It has been remarked, that even among the Swiss cantons, which, properly speaking, are not under one government, provision is made for this object; and the history of that league informs us that mutual aid is frequently claimed and afforded; and as well by the most democratic, as the other cantons. A recent and well-known event among ourselves has warned us to be prepared for emergencies of a like nature. At first view, it might seem not to square with the republican theory, to suppose, either that a majority have not the right, or that a minority will have the force, to subvert a government; and consequently, that the federal interposition can never be required, but when it would be improper. But theoretic reasoning, in this as in most other cases, must be qualified by the lessons of practice. Why may not illicit combinations, for purposes of violence, be formed as well by a majority of a State, especially a small State as by a majority of a county, or a district of the same State; and if the authority of the State ought, in the latter case, to protect the local magistracy, ought not the federal authority, in the former, to support the State authority? Besides, there are certain parts of the State constitutions which are so interwoven with the federal Constitution, that a violent blow cannot be given to the one without communicating the wound to the other. Insurrections in a State will rarely induce a federal interposition, unless the number concerned in them bear some proportion to the friends of government. It will be much better that the violence in such cases should be repressed by the superintending power, than that the majority should be left to maintain their cause by a bloody and obstinate contest. The existence of a right to interpose, will generally prevent the necessity of exerting it.

...May not the minor party possess such a superiority of pecuniary resources, of military talents and experience, or of secret succors from foreign powers, as will render it superior also in an appeal to the sword? May not a more compact and advantageous position turn the scale on the same side, against a superior number so situated as to be less capable of a prompt and collected exertion of its strength? Nothing can be more chimerical than to imagine that in a trial of actual force, victory may be calculated by the rules which prevail in a census of the inhabitants, or which determine the event of an election! May it not happen, in fine, that the minority of CITIZENS may become a majority of PERSONS, by the accession of alien residents, of a casual concourse of adventurers, or of those whom the constitution of the State has not admitted to the rights of suffrage? I take no notice of an unhappy species of population abounding in some of the States, who, during the calm of regular government, are sunk below the level of men; but who, in the tempestuous scenes of civil violence, may emerge into the human character, and give a superiority of strength to any party with which they may associate themselves. In cases where it may be doubtful on which side justice lies, what better umpires could be desired by two violent factions, flying to arms, and tearing a State to pieces, than the representatives of confederate States, not heated by the local flame? To the impartiality of judges, they would unite the affection of friends. Happy would it be if such a remedy for its infirmities could be enjoyed by all free governments; if a project equally effectual could be established for the universal peace of mankind! Should it be asked, what is to be the redress for an insurrection pervading all the States, and comprising a superiority of the entire force, though not a constitutional right? the answer must be, that such a case, as it would be without the compass of human remedies, so it is fortunately not within the compass of human probability; and that it is a sufficient recommendation of the federal Constitution, that it diminishes the risk of a calamity for which no possible constitution can provide a cure. Among the advantages of a confederate republic enumerated by Montesquieu, an important one is, "that should a popular insurrection happen in one of the States, the others are able to quell it. Should abuses creep into one part, they are reformed by those that remain sound. ''

-PJ

12 posted on 12/22/2023 9:15:56 AM PST by Political Junkie Too ( * LAAP = Left-wing Activist Agitprop Press (formerly known as the MSM))
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Another reason to dump Haley. Talking about messing with Social Security benefits when tax money is going toward transporting, housing and feeding illegals, as well as wars we should have nothing to do with? Does she mention anything about eliminating those costs as a possible fix for SS shortfalls?


16 posted on 12/22/2023 9:21:15 AM PST by mikey_hates_everything
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You’re numbers are low.

And it is all part of a plan.


17 posted on 12/22/2023 9:23:07 AM PST by 9YearLurker
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In my area of Florida I see far more foreigners shopping at my local Walmart and they seem to be of lower quality.


21 posted on 12/22/2023 9:32:11 AM PST by Brian Griffin
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The new Americans, because the old Americans despise their incompetent, inept and corrupt government.


22 posted on 12/22/2023 9:32:23 AM PST by cp124 (80% of everything is fake or a lie.)
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All part of the plan.

Lot of contention, here on FR, about taxpayer funds to Ukraine.

Everyone is entitled to their opinion, but, seriously, that's chicken scratch compared to this.

I'd be willing to bet that it's way, way more than $450,000,000 a year and they keep bringing them in.

Add to that the 30,000,000 illegals that were already here, most on welfare.

23 posted on 12/22/2023 9:32:31 AM PST by Eagles6 (Welcome to the Matrix . Orwell's "1984" was a warning, not an instruction manual.)
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They get work permits, too - until their asylum case is fully litigated, which can involve years of appeals.

Completely crushes the wage scale for low skill Americans.

And, in case anyone missed it...

A Fox News border reporter showed the official date for a FIRST asylum court hearing as of yesterday - April 2031.

Biden could have been impeached (but not convicted) a year ago for his failure to faithfully execute the laws.

In the meantime, the GOP majority in the House of Representatives does...NOTHING!

Mass Amnesty, coming soon to a neighborhood near you.


24 posted on 12/22/2023 9:51:58 AM PST by zeestephen (Trump "Lost" By 43,000 Votes - Spread Across Three States - GA, WI, AZ)
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Shut up and pay your taxes. You can’t expect these invaders to work for a living... Paying for their every need ain’t cheap.


29 posted on 12/22/2023 11:29:18 AM PST by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eye)
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IT IS A DISASTER DUE TO BIDEN AND DEMOCRATS.

SHUT IT DOWN AND USE THE MILITARY !!!!


30 posted on 12/22/2023 11:38:01 AM PST by Pearfect
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I have, but nobody listens to me.


33 posted on 12/22/2023 12:21:27 PM PST by ThePatriotsFlag (Accepting a false premise initiates conversational defeat.)
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It is Marxist organized invasion with Biden knowingly complicit.


36 posted on 12/22/2023 1:40:11 PM PST by Wuli
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Nope. Democrats lack critical thinking skills, and are incapable of rational thought and common sense. FBI Director mentions 169 people caught on the terrorist watch list. This guy is a genius, right? Consider thousands of terrorists among the eight million invaders walking right past the CBP.

When the cells are triggered to strike, the masses will be in panic and have nothing to say other than “holy shiit… what have we done?”

Obama and Soros will be smiling as America burns.

38 posted on 12/22/2023 3:00:59 PM PST by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Prepare. There’s a huge storm coming.


40 posted on 12/22/2023 3:04:19 PM PST by DouglasKC
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