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1 posted on 12/22/2023 7:50:29 AM PST by Red Badger
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2 posted on 12/22/2023 7:51:21 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while l aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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Toyota gets it - a Need For Speed is a human universal + fully electric will never be the total solution that some think it is.


3 posted on 12/22/2023 7:52:37 AM PST by Republican in occupied CA (We had enough government in 1789)
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They are only doing this because of twisted marxist central planning from governments.

The national highway traffic safety administration needs to be eliminated


4 posted on 12/22/2023 7:54:03 AM PST by PGR88
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“However, he admitted that a major hurdle stands in the way of the technology: infrastructure.”

I think something akin to bottle exchanges would be the path of least resistance.


5 posted on 12/22/2023 7:54:48 AM PST by rightwingcrazy (;-,)
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The British Top Gear guys said hydrogen was the way forward many years ago.

https://youtu.be/0fBqkWkEeqU?si=DnB7m1VzR1txnxcc


7 posted on 12/22/2023 8:01:20 AM PST by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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hydrogen combustion that can be a part of that zero-emission line-up

Where are you going to get the hydrogen?

And no, you can't "make" hydrogen at home. You can crack it out of water or hydrocarbons ... which requires energy. Where's that going to come from? Wind? Solar? Don't make me laugh! On second thought, do ...

"Green" energy is a lie.

The Greens hate nuclear, coal, oil, and methane. They hate hydro, which is funny: hydro power is really just solar by another name. They feed us BS about solar and wind ... and either they don't know what they're talking about, or they're lying.

8 posted on 12/22/2023 8:02:14 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the people to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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Hydrogen alone makes no sense. Now, if you just add some carbon to that hydrogen and make a liquid hydrocarbon fuel, you’d really have something.

Get the carbon from biomass and you’d be “carbon neutral,” too. No releasing that evil carbon stored in coal.


9 posted on 12/22/2023 8:02:52 AM PST by ProtectOurFreedom (“Occupy your mind with good thoughts or your enemy will fill them with bad ones.” ~ Thomas More)
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Where will you get the hydrogen ? Well where will all the electricity for EVs come from ? LOL


13 posted on 12/22/2023 8:24:17 AM PST by butlerweave
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I read somewhere that Ford has research into developing ‘water run’ engines that converts it into hydrogen. China can’t control the world’s water sources vs the mining necessary for battery components in EV’s.


16 posted on 12/22/2023 8:31:51 AM PST by tflabo (Truth or tyranny )
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As the owner of excavation and utility construction company, no one can tell me how it will be possible to charge a fleet EV heavy equipment in an efficient and fast manner. It’s not like I can afford to double the size of my fleet of loaders, excavators, and dump trucks so one set is charging while the other is in operation.

If they do away with diesel fuel, the only real alternative will be hydrogen.


17 posted on 12/22/2023 8:34:40 AM PST by shotgun
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The major hurdle is embrittlement…


18 posted on 12/22/2023 8:50:37 AM PST by Axenolith (MALITIIS HOMINUM EST OBVIANDUM)
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Good for them. Batteries are bad tech.

As to hydrogen, make it on site from water and leccy. No distribution system needed. It is basically a very inefficient EV approach.


21 posted on 12/22/2023 9:16:56 AM PST by bobbo666 (Baizuo, )
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More madness is this. To make hydrogen from water via electrolysis is about 75% efficient. The electricity comes from petroleum or coal powered plants mostly. You can make it from coal or natural gas via a high temperature process that is not energy efficient in the least. Hydrogen is a bitch to work with. It leaks, it causes hydrogen embrittlement and if one of those tanks ruptures in a multistory garage you will have a hell of an explosion that will probably bring the garage down.

In effect you have already lost 25% of your energy before it is used in your car and perhaps blown up a garage, your house, etc.


25 posted on 12/25/2023 11:12:24 AM PST by cpdiii (cane cutter-deckhand-oilfield roughneck-drilling fluiids tech-geologist-pilot-instructor-pharmacist)
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