Posted on 12/07/2023 7:11:32 AM PST by Yo-Yo
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QDBXwWlU64M
I wonder if this is going to affect the Navy's decision to phase out C-2 Greyhounds for CMV-22B Ospreys to perform the Carrier Onboard Delivery (COD) mission.
Osprey hating in 3-2-1...
Dang it! I was gonna fly my osprey to the east coast and watch the illegals landing onshore in Martha’s vineyard! (Or was it another ritzy place they are being shipped to?)
Those tilt-rotors have been touchy from the get-go.
And despite the Osprey’s negative reputation, you won’t find its incident record as a dangerous outlier in service-wide or branch-specific data. As Marine Maj. Jorge Hernandez, spokesman for Marine aviation, explained to the Military Times in a July e-mail, the Marine Corps’ MV-22 Osprey has a lower mishap rate per 100,000 flight hours than the Harrier, Super Hornet, F-35B, or CH-53E Super Stallion.
I know it got a very bad reputation early on with several very high profile crashes that were traced to a condition called vortex ring state, but overall the V-22 has proven to be no more dangerous than other military aircraft in general.
Very good and thorough description. Thanks.
Thats because Xi Jinping called them out on all their crashes and to make them look stupid, but they follow him, unbelievable.
Thanks for the Blacolirio video link. He does a good job explaining the Osprey drive train.
Yeah, I’ll hate on it. Only because you can buy 20 Blackhawk helicopters for every V22. And you can buy 50 F16s for every F35 and so on. The F16 only ever needed weapons upgrades, I don’t mind spending money on the military, I just wish we got more bang for the buck.
Trying to remember which previous aircraft this one replaced?
I saw two flying just yesterday...
“Those tilt-rotors have been touchy from the get-go.”
Politics at its best...GWB gave the contract to Texas..Nuff said...
For Marine use it replaced the CH-46 Sea Knight, known as the "Phrog."
For the Air Force, it replaced the MH-53 Pave Low.
For the Navy, it is in the process of replacing the C-2 Greyhound.
It is not so much Osprey hating as it is the aircraft is poorly suited for the job the COD fills and too expensive to operate. Politicians for money, suppliers for money, brass for jobs and money and others for some shiny new toy get wrong headed. The Greyhound may be old but that does not mean it needs to be phased out. New ones bought maybe but not phased out.
“Trying to remember which previous aircraft this one replaced?”
It didn’t actually replace any specific aircraft, although it was nominally intended to eventually replace the CH-46 and CH-47 helicopters. The ‘46 and ‘47 just cannot match the V-22 in speed to the area of operations...
V-22 incidents are not recoverable. When things go bad, you’re dead.
As a pilot, this bird ain’t for me. Give me a bird that has a chance for corrective action and survivability.
I know you're exaggerating, but a new build F-16C Block 70 costs $63 million, and the latest tranche of F-35As cost $70 million.
The Blackhawk doesn't have the capacity, range, or speed of the Osprey, so it isn't a substitute, regardless of cost.
Who’s exaggerating?
Mothball/scrap them and start over WITHOUT a tilt wing.
These have been a disaster since the program started.
"Trying to remember which previous aircraft this one replaced?"
I think it was this one:
Five were ordered by the Military.
Three were delivered.
Two crashed while testing.
One was used for parts, to fix the crashed ones.
The person who said And you can buy 50 F16s for every F35 and so on.
You can buy 1.1 F-16s for every F-35.
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