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To: gleeaikin
Several are from various official Ukraine government sources.

That's fine but they'll vote propaganda. I don't blame them. We did the same during WWII. The problem is that we don't know what's going on.

Two examples. Fall of Saigon. And Fall of Kabul.

34 posted on 12/04/2023 8:23:15 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican

*post propaganda.


35 posted on 12/04/2023 8:23:35 PM PST by MinorityRepublican
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To: MinorityRepublican; gleeaikin; UMCRevMom@aol.com
gleeaikin: "Several are from various official Ukraine government sources."

Minority Republican: "That's fine but they'll post propaganda.
I don't blame them.
We did the same during WWII."

Well... obviously, "propaganda", like beauty, is in the eyes of the beholder.
Reports written in good faith intending to be both factual and reasonable may well turn out later on to have been totally wrong, but that did not necessarily make them "propaganda" in hind-sight.

I'm saying, to be "propaganda" it has to be both knowingly false and maliciously intended.
So, "propaganda" is false words weaponized for political purposes, and I don't think that's what we're seeing, even from Ukraine's government.

Minority Republican: "Two examples. Fall of Saigon. And Fall of Kabul."

In both cases the outcome was predictable based on conditions imposed by our Democrat leaders.
In the case of Saigon, Democrats in Congress stopped funding for the South Vietnamese government in advance of a new North Vietnamese offensive.
Until that point, the South Vietnamese had stood strong against the North, but without funding, the government and military collapsed, leading to total defeat.

In Afghanistan the situation was similar, regardless of current Democrat blame-shifting.
The fact is, Democrats made a mess of it, partly maybe because they believed their own lies, but more important, because they just didn't care.
They wanted out by a date certain, no matter what.

So, I don't think "propaganda" was the real problem in either Vietnam or Afghanistan.
Rather, in both cases our Democrats decided to cut and run, no matter what the consequences, they didn't care.

65 posted on 12/05/2023 6:42:37 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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