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To: BroJoeK

Well a response like that can only be met with an intelligent and well thought out “you are a soros loving, globullhomo, racist nazi…” /s

Just thought I would get that out of the way lol.

Appreciate the thoughtful response, used to be that way.
Think the prime example of the difference between sources and how they are accepted/treated is between Denys and Macgregor.

Denys does an update, listed what he sees both good and bad, his coverage of early bakmut and his take is a good example. He went from supporting ukranian tactics, to criticizing, to supporting as the battle ebbed and flowed. On the other hand I cannot recall a single prediction that Macgregor has made(he presents himself well, has credentials to give him credibility…), please correct me if he has had predictions that have come true. The same claims of defeat and collapse happen seemingly daily, yet of the pro Russian/macgregor clan I have never seen any criticism of failed predictions and most importantly(at least to them) is any mention of how these appearances have financially benefited him.

Mom and others aggregate news and opinion sources which I appreciate, it is up to the consumer to verify validity of the information. Truth is always somewhere in between all the noise

Good example is the Z yacht story. Effectively disproved(dislike the term debunked) and yet the story still lives.

Personal biases and narratives are strong motivators for what one sees as factual or true and vice versa.

A CNN vs Fox viewer(I am neither), I imagine will have diametrically opposed views. A watcher of both Fox and CNN would probably be utterly confused lol.

That’s my “propaganda “ for the day😀


107 posted on 12/07/2023 3:36:28 AM PST by blitz128
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To: blitz128
blitz128: "On the other hand I cannot recall a single prediction that Macgregor has made(he presents himself well, has credentials to give him credibility…), please correct me if he has had predictions that have come true."

I have listened to Macgregor on occasion, and he does produce a strong negative reaction in me.
So do other more conservative anti-Ukers, Tucker Carlson being the prime example.
Much as I like him otherwise, I can't listen to his anti-Uke nonsense.

Still, in no case have my strong feelings driven me to concoct vicious & unfair personal attacks against any of them.

As for whether any of them are being somehow compensated for their services to Russia, that is unknowable, however, when pro-Russians accuse Ukraine's defenders of being bribed, we might remember the old Rule of Russian Projection -- Old Soviet & Russian propagandists often accused their opponents of doing things Russians themselves were/are doing.

blitz128: "A CNN vs Fox viewer (I am neither), I imagine will have diametrically opposed views.
A watcher of both Fox and CNN would probably be utterly confused lol."

I remember watching the 9/11/2001 attacks on CNN and soon after I switched over to Fox News.
Today I'm having more & more problems with Fox, including the 2020 election, January 6, treatment of Donald Trump in general and some of their views on Ukraine.
So I watch less & less of it.

I get a lot of news from YouTube and, of course, from Free Republic.

108 posted on 12/07/2023 5:16:09 AM PST by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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