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DeSantis/Newsom debate—Newsom lost bigtime
American Thinker ^ | 1 Dec, 2023 | Patricia McCarthy

Posted on 12/01/2023 9:53:18 AM PST by MtnClimber

Newsom’s malevolent, self-serving nature came through loud and clear.

As any resident of California can tell you, just about every word out of Newsom’s mouth in this debate was a lie. Under his terms of office, the quality of life in California has declined tragically. As the charts showed, crime is up, far worse than Florida. Hundreds of thousands of locals who used to love downtown for music, theater, museums, no longer go there. It’s too dangerous. San Francisco is in worse shape than LA… as everyone knows. He was far, far worse than DeSantis during the Covid nonsense. Our lockdowns, and mask and vax mandates were tyrannical. California is ranked 38th for pre-K–12 education; Florida is ranked #1. Our schools were stupidly closed for two years during Covid. We tried to recall him, but most believe he cheated to defeat the recall. No one here thinks he has done a good job. He is the Biden of California.

San Francisco’s miserable decline on his watch is common knowledge. The streets are filled with drug-users, homeless people defecating in the streets, and shoplifting and carjackings are permitted. The police can do nothing—they are not allowed. Naturally, hundreds of businesses have closed. Newsom cleaned it up for China’s President Xi, and lined the streets with Chinese flags! Four hundred American CEOs gave Xi, a dictator of whom Mao would be proud, a standing ovation! What does that tell us? Our CEOs are amoral creeps who only care about money, not people; that they admire Xi is a sad commentary on U.S. corporations. Elon Musk was there of course.

Newsom is a pathological liar. Everything he claimed about California was a lie, as was what he said about Florida in his feeble attempt to slime DeSantis.

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1 posted on 12/01/2023 9:53:18 AM PST by MtnClimber
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To: MtnClimber

I watched some of the debate. I think DeSantis made good, logical points. Unfortunately the suburban single female voters are more likely to be emotionally swayed and immune to logic. I think Newsome won on the emotional points, but I am not a suburban female so what do I know.


2 posted on 12/01/2023 9:53:37 AM PST by MtnClimber (For photos of Colorado scenery and wildlife, click on my screen name for my FR home page.)
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To: MtnClimber

THANK YOU! I get too nervous to watch debates (kind of like horse racing) but there was so much promotion that I figured it would be the talk of the town this morning. But almost nothing... all GEORGE SANTOS. I’m glad to hear DeSantis did well!


3 posted on 12/01/2023 10:01:21 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: MtnClimber

From the article:

“God save us from him ever becoming anything beyond a failed governor of California.”

He’s not a failed governor. California is the model state that is envisioned for the entire country, needles, poop, xylazine and all.

And cleaned up for a Communist dictator.

It’s just that he’s not satisfied that the rest of us don’t live that way.

(Sorry for you Republicans trapped behind enemy lines)


4 posted on 12/01/2023 10:01:24 AM PST by packagingguy
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To: packagingguy

California Uber Alles

You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Newsom
When you mess with President Newsom


5 posted on 12/01/2023 10:03:18 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: MtnClimber

I had another commitment so I unfortunately missed the debate. I’ll try to review it over the next week when I get more time.
My position is DeSantis won the debate, even though I didn’t watch it.😀

Especially, after reading some kook at Daily Kos about 5 minutes ago saying Newsom “kicked butt.”


6 posted on 12/01/2023 10:03:33 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: MtnClimber
newsom had his lies.

desantis had his fake, forced smile

https://truthsocial.com/@KarliBonne/posts/111502924997751373

And some pathological lip licking, too

7 posted on 12/01/2023 10:05:22 AM PST by backpacker_c
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To: MtnClimber

Newsom’s hair was fab-U-luss. And didn’t he once date a Hollywood starlet?


8 posted on 12/01/2023 10:11:39 AM PST by Blurb2350 (posted from my 1500-watt blow dryer)
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To: dfwgator

California Uber Alles

You will croak, you little clown
When you mess with President Newsom
When you mess with President Newsom

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Newsom isn’t the sure thing many members of Free Republic think he is. He has many opponents in the hodge podge democrat coalition.

He’s seen as corporate democrat by the Bernie Bro “true believer” type.

Also, he’s white & doesn’t have a vagina.


9 posted on 12/01/2023 10:22:07 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: MtnClimber

Newsome = pathological LIAR


10 posted on 12/01/2023 10:23:09 AM PST by bantam
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To: unclebankster

All that matters is he’s controllable, like Biden.


11 posted on 12/01/2023 10:23:15 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: unclebankster

I’ve never understood how Newsom came to be seen as “the obvious” replacement for Biden.


12 posted on 12/01/2023 10:26:00 AM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: ClearCase_guy
I’ve never understood how Newsom came to be seen as “the obvious” replacement for Biden.

They have a mighty sparse bench.

13 posted on 12/01/2023 10:31:43 AM PST by gloryblaze
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To: dfwgator

All that matters is he’s controllable, like Biden.

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True, but the Newsom dossier or files will be bigger than a phone book.

The way to neutralize Newsom is to make California ‘scary’ in the Midwest, while rapping gay & trannie culture around his neck.

Newsom was the mayor of San Francisco, which means we should have some good footage to exploit.(We Willie Horton him in a different way)


14 posted on 12/01/2023 10:32:52 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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To: MtnClimber

DeSantis made some great points and knew what he was talking about. The poop map was all abuzz. I had to stop watching because I could not take Newsom’s grossness. He is distgusting.


15 posted on 12/01/2023 10:45:02 AM PST by llmc1
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To: MtnClimber

Totally meaningless. Who cares?


16 posted on 12/01/2023 10:45:24 AM PST by kempster (w President of all time.)
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To: MtnClimber

Newsom did what he should have done.

He knows that he can claim California is a paradise and claim the EXACT OPPOSITE of what the facts show. The Media will get to work on the de-educated drones.

Before you know it these will be the facts:

California has more people moving to it from other states in the country.

Nobody is moving to Florida or Texas.

They have a budget surplus.

San Francisco is an award winning metropolis only due to Newsom’s leadership and programs.

Crime is down in California.

California handled Covid like a pro. Everyone in Florida died from Covid. Nobody in California died. It was perfect.

Florida burns books while California is free. And if you don’t agree with that, they are justified in jailing you for that hate speech.

California is energy independent with just solar.

California has the fairest tax system in the country that is, actually, lower than Florida.

Oh yes, CNN and MSNBC will convene panels. The panelists will all agree with the above and it will be labelled as “the Science.” Anyone not believing that California is the best will be denying the Science. Social media will censor and fact check and ban anyone disagreeing with any of those facts. The Late Night “comedians” will ridicule anyone who could possibly believe California isn’t the model state. Networks and Streaming services will launch shows set in the beastly conditions of Florida.

You disagree that California is an amazing place?!?! You are a threat to “your democracy.”

Even worse? Anyone who dares to go to California to do a documentary or interview disgruntled citizens will get themselves a good ole FBI swatting at 4 AM. Gag orders will ensue. Blue State AG’s will convene Grand Juries. Indictments to follow.

Newsom and the Dems know this. The arrogance they display when they spew nonsense is proof of it. They can say anything, literally anything and it will be so, OR ELSE!!! They are full on, full in totalitarian.


17 posted on 12/01/2023 10:46:00 AM PST by FlipWilson
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“There are profound differences tonight, and I look forward to engaging them. But there’s one thing in closing, that we have in common, is neither of us will be the nominee for our party in 2024.”
Newsom got one thing right.
18 posted on 12/01/2023 10:47:09 AM PST by Olog-hai ("No Republican, no matter how liberal, is going to woo a Democratic vote." -- Ronald Reagan, 1960)
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To: MtnClimber

Women all to often vote with their genitalia witness the Clinton Presidentcy.


19 posted on 12/01/2023 10:48:20 AM PST by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: ClearCase_guy

I’ve never understood how Newsom came to be seen as “the obvious” replacement for Biden.

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He isn’t if you go around the conservative media and study the democrats like I do.

The little democrats are cocky & have a lot of bravado right now, but the power brokers that control the party are in a dilemma.
They’re not sure that Biden can win, and unwilling to expose their younger candidates at this time.

The reason they aren’t taking the risk, is the 45th President is unconventional and will play any card deck they deal.

If they want to “play ball” at the top of Trump Tower- Trump is game.

If they want to play poker or go fish- Trump is game.

If they want to play in the sewer- Trump is game. He’ll come out of the sewer in a nice suit, while a Newsom or Whitmer type will look like they got ran over by a semi.


20 posted on 12/01/2023 10:49:02 AM PST by unclebankster ( Globalism is the last refuge of a scoundrel.)
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