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Canada introduces compulsory study of Holodomor in schools
Yahoo News ^ | November 28, 2023 | Ukrainska Pravda

Posted on 11/28/2023 7:54:08 PM PST by Robwin

The government of the province of Ontario has decided to include the study of Holodomor of 1932-33 in the school curriculum.

The course on the study of this Soviet crime will be included in the Canadian history program for the 10th grade starting from September 2025.

Source: Canada's Minister of Education Steven Lecce on 28 November during a press conference at the St. Demetrius School, the press service of the Canadian-Ukrainian Foundation told UP. Zhyttia.

"This is important news for the Ukrainian community in Canada, which has worked for many years to raise the world's aware

(Excerpt) Read more at news.yahoo.com ...


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This is in but one province, but it's a start

Trudeau, when he heard about this, wondered if this was right-wing propaganda, since he hadn't heard a thing about it in his studies of the works of Walter Duranty.

1 posted on 11/28/2023 7:54:08 PM PST by Robwin
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To: Robwin

The one vital truth will not be taught.
That of big governments always eventually resort to mass murder.


2 posted on 11/28/2023 7:55:11 PM PST by Jonty30 (It turns out that I did not buy my cell phone for all the calls I might be missing at home.)
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To: Robwin

Will the lesson be: You need to hate Communism as a ruthless political ideology?
or will the lesson be: You need to hate Russians as an ethnic group?

And I’ll just say that if they decide to teach the hatred of certain ethnic groups, well, I did Nazi that coming.


3 posted on 11/28/2023 7:57:48 PM PST by ClearCase_guy
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To: Robwin

It’s likely the Ukrainian broad who works for Trudeau coming up with this stuff. My guess is that the Holodomor will be totally blamed on Russia and the Soviet Union isn’t even mentioned, much less Communism, or much less that the guy who ordered the Holodomor wasn’t even a Russian (he was Georgian).


4 posted on 11/28/2023 8:03:19 PM PST by BobL (Trump gets my vote, even if I have to write him in; Millions of others will do the same)
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To: Robwin

Nope it will be used by Canada as a primer that this is what the government will do if you do not follow boogie man Trudeau’s edicts and woke policies.


5 posted on 11/28/2023 8:06:18 PM PST by Liaison (TANSTAAFL)
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To: Robwin
This is in but one province, but it's a start

Ontario is a HUGE province. It includes Toronto. Also, there are a lot of Ukrainians in the Prairie Provinces, so they should have no problem adding this on.
6 posted on 11/28/2023 8:16:01 PM PST by Dr. Sivana ("If you can’t say something nice . . . say the Rosary." [Red Badger])
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To: Robwin

The question is how will they blame Putin instead of communism and big government?


7 posted on 11/28/2023 8:18:09 PM PST by ArcadeQuarters (You can't remvove RINOs by voting for them!)
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To: ClearCase_guy
Will the lesson be: You need to hate Communism as a ruthless political ideology? Or will the lesson be: You need to hate Russians as an ethnic group?

For a high school course, it ought to be a page or two in the Modern European History curriculum, which would also have to cover Muskovite expansionism, which they learned from the Mongols in medieval times and cannot seem to forget. Communism in "Russia" was just a new chapter of an old, old tale.

As for claiming modern "Russians" as a race, they are just a part of the East Slavic ethnicity that also covers Belorus and Ukraine. So teaching the history of "Russia" (meaning the Muscovite empire) and its' treatment of its' East Slavic neighbors couldn't be racist.

8 posted on 11/28/2023 8:29:20 PM PST by Chad C. Mulligan
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To: Robwin

That’s because it only applies here in Ontario and the Feds have no jurisdiction over education in any Province; our Supreme Court is more apt at pretending to honour the nation’s Constitution than yours ever was despite your 134-year head start.

About time our Conservative government here acted; they’ve only been in charge for the lion’s share of the last 73 years.


9 posted on 11/28/2023 8:34:15 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Liaison

It’s too bad that Trudeau the Younger is trying to hang on while every poll is pointing to a major shit-kicking at the next election that’s scheduled for 23 months from now. Even Trudeau the Elder had the sense to scram in time for the Liberals to blame his successor, an that was a generation ago (1984).


10 posted on 11/28/2023 8:40:17 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

I’ll be grateful if it doesn’t blame the war on the Vikings for colonizing Russia and establishing Kyiv a couple of centuries before Moscow even existed.


11 posted on 11/28/2023 8:44:02 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

Nope, they’ll blame the whole thing on Norway and Denmark for their role in Viking colonial expansionism; thanks to the whiter-than-white Norsemen, Kyiv was a major power centre a couple of centuries before Moscow was even established. Why do you think the “Russian Aggressors” used to call themselves “Kievan Rus”?


12 posted on 11/28/2023 8:50:16 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Chad C. Mulligan

You forgot to mention that both the Ukrainians and the Russians were tainted with mostly Viking genes brought in by riverboat from Norway via the Slavic part of Europe.


13 posted on 11/28/2023 8:53:19 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Robwin

Communists like Trudeau don’t want that information taught in schools because it proves Communism doesn’t work.


14 posted on 11/28/2023 8:54:18 PM PST by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUSTPING)
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To: Dr. Sivana

Yeah, but Toronto has more Ukrainians now thanks to the ones who came back east when they saw that all their neighbours had to live in sod huts because there no trees to be found anywhere near the land that the Liberal government of the day gave them, aided by the Big Railway and Big Ocean Freighter & Passenger cartel that dominated Canada’s supply chain at the time.


15 posted on 11/28/2023 9:00:08 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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I grew up in Ontario and became anti-communist in my university years (I know, it sounds like a fantasy), but it was because I met people from Prague just newly escaped from Czechoslovakia, as well as fellow students who were libertarians. Before that, I was never exposed to any ideas that were remotely conservative, let alone anti-communist. It was the late 60s and early 70s, anti-Vietnam rallies and communes, etc etc. I wanted none of it and began to read up on U.S. politics and history, as I knew nothing about it (Canadian education basically ignored the elephant next door but we did learn a lot about medieval Europe). It is probably worse now, but at least learning about Stalin’s excesses will be useful if probably presented in a distorted way (the typical Ontario h.s. teacher is about as far left as a Portland ANTIFA organizer, only a touch less dangerous).

“I don’t want to tell you this, but socialists once, long long ago, did a bad thing.”

But more likely, it will all be Trump’s fault.


16 posted on 11/28/2023 9:04:05 PM PST by Peter ODonnell (Prayers up for Jim Robinson and family ... an island of sanity in a sea of madness. )
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To: ransomnote

Too bad for him that our Supreme Court still honours the section of our Constitution that prohibits Federal control over education and Trudeau doesn’t have a prayer of compromising it; he gave up after nine years and is now playin to lose the next election less than two years from today.


17 posted on 11/28/2023 9:07:29 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: ArcadeQuarters

By pointing out that Putin is Russian, and Russians are slightly less Scandinavian than Ukrainians.


18 posted on 11/28/2023 9:09:06 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Robwin

What about covering the Arab Muslim slave trade, of both Africans and White Europeans?


19 posted on 11/28/2023 9:14:30 PM PST by montag813
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To: Peter ODonnell

The nephew of the Czech owner/cook of the favourite local diner of my family during my childhood escaped Prague after thee Red Army tanks rolled in and was in Canada within months. He both the diner and hired himself as cook when his uncle retired sometime before the Berlin Wall came down. By 1997 when the voters in the diner’s neighbourhood finally got around to lifting Prohibition in their part of the city, the Kid from Prague had more than enough capital to shut down the diner, gut the building, and reopen as a pub with a patio out back. The only aspects of the diner he kept were his job as cook, his unccle’s menu. The all-day breakfast was cut back from seven days a week to one (Sunday) and he kept most of the profit he made from the food (his uncle’s pork schitzel was inexpensive but more than enough to feed anyone from lunchtime until bedtime while skipping dinner because it was delicious enough to finish it off while it was still warm) while booze profits were a windfall. Don’t get me started on the open-face roast beef sandwich special at lunch of the roast beef dinner special in the evening or my stomach will keep me up all night with its growling.


20 posted on 11/28/2023 9:30:22 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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