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Stellantis’ new RAM pickup is an EV — with a gas-powered generator in case the battery runs out
CNBC ^ | NOV 7 202312:01 AM EST | Michael Wayland

Posted on 11/07/2023 6:06:24 AM PST by Red Badger

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To: Gay State Conservative

“Hybrid” can encompass several configurations. Toyota seems to have the best layout for passenger cars and SUVs. They use the electrics to provide primary propulsion with a small ICE to charge the battery and to provide extra or emergency propulsion.

Switching the primary and backup propulsion for trucks seems reasonable, but with such a large primary ICE or diesel, why bother with the extra complexity of the electrics? You basically have a hydrocarbon-based vehicle anyway ...


41 posted on 11/07/2023 8:15:43 AM PST by ByteMercenary (Cho Bi Dung and KamalHo are not my leaders.)
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To: Red Badger

FUBAR


42 posted on 11/07/2023 8:16:35 AM PST by exPBRrat
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To: Red Badger

Isn’t that a “hybrid”?


43 posted on 11/07/2023 8:16:56 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Tell It Right

“Maybe I’m overlooking something.”

Maybe it’s a matter of how much of your driving uses electricity from the grid, versus electricity from the onboard gas generator.

Perhaps a much smaller battery compensates for the weight of the gas-powered generator.

Stellantis is putting another option for us on the market. That’s a good thing.


44 posted on 11/07/2023 8:19:50 AM PST by cymbeline
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To: NorthMountain

A reverse hybrid................


45 posted on 11/07/2023 8:20:23 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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To: Tell It Right
Maybe I'm overlooking something.

Suppose it was simply a normal truck powered by a 6-cylinder piston engine.

Would you consider 3.6 liters displacement to be too much, not enough, or just right?

Cut through all the hype, and that's what it's doing ... it's using a piston engine to drive an electric generator to run electric motors to make the wheels spin. It's a railroad locomotive.

46 posted on 11/07/2023 8:22:29 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

If I’m reading it right, it’s an interesting concept. Not sure I want it ... Absolutely sure I don’t want the government involved in it at all ... but it’s interesting.

A combination of clutch, torque converter, and differential is not the only way to get power from a piston engine to the drive wheels. The battery allows for regenerative braking, which may save enough fuel to pay for itself.


47 posted on 11/07/2023 8:29:08 AM PST by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: Red Badger

Cost per mile to operate vs ice only?


48 posted on 11/07/2023 8:34:00 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: NorthMountain

Diesel electric locomotive comes to mind.


49 posted on 11/07/2023 8:34:47 AM PST by devane617 (Discipline Is Reliable, Motivation Is Fleeting..)
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To: Red Badger

btt


50 posted on 11/07/2023 8:40:27 AM PST by GailA (GMOs have a new name 'BIOENGINEERED' read labels. Constitutional Conservative.)
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To: Red Badger
The truck can operate as a zero-emissions EV.

No it can't, it's an EV powered by fossil fuels most likely chole.

51 posted on 11/07/2023 8:50:07 AM PST by usurper (AI was born with a birth defect.)
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52 posted on 11/07/2023 8:51:07 AM PST by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: bert

That’s an ugly vehicle.


53 posted on 11/07/2023 9:15:26 AM PST by moovova ("The NEXT election is the most important election of our lifetimes!“ LOL...)
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To: Red Badger

What’s the weight of this beast??

It’s got to be quite heavy w/ the EV battery, the EV electric motor and the conventional ICE engine/battery charger and powertrain.


54 posted on 11/07/2023 9:33:40 AM PST by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: aquila48

All kidding aside, about a year ago I read about a cross country off-road rig that did this with a fairly small set of batteries and a reliable good generator, probably a Honda, that just ran at a steady rpm like most generators do.

If I remember correctly this shop-built side by side rig could go over 2000 miles on one tank full of regular gas. It was made for off-road use so I assume the speed was kept under 40 mph most the time with occasional bursts of 50+ mph.

I believe this was a one-off built as proof of concept.

Here’s a company that manufactures hybrid side by side’s. https://www.huntve.com/copy-of-onrange-4x2-1


55 posted on 11/07/2023 12:20:37 PM PST by Boomer (The Long Winter is coming...)
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To: Red Badger

What is that, a 4-foot bed? Why bother with a pickup, then?


56 posted on 11/07/2023 2:56:17 PM PST by nicollo ("This is FR!")
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To: Red Badger

So it’s actually a hybrid with that starts with a small ICE while the rest of the powertrain is all-electric. Ineffecient but simple to engineer.


57 posted on 11/07/2023 3:12:40 PM PST by Squawk 8888 (I don't run; if you see me running, you should run too.)
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To: Red Badger

I cut out the middleman. My 2014 Corolla has a 1.6 liter ICE that is directly coupled to the transmission! How’s that for technology?


58 posted on 11/10/2023 10:00:48 AM PST by Lonesome in Massachussets (Perdicaris alive or Raisuli dead!)
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To: Red Badger
In a word, it’s a HYBRID.

Seems to me it’s effectively an inverted hybrid.

59 posted on 11/10/2023 11:29:57 AM PST by rhinohunter (Elections have consequences. Stolen elections have catastrophic consequences.)
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Yes.....................


60 posted on 11/10/2023 11:30:39 AM PST by Red Badger (Homeless veterans camp in the streets while illegal aliens are put up in hotels.....................)
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