Posted on 11/04/2023 12:19:12 PM PDT by conservatism_IS_compassion
It is all fun and games until your Tesla catches on fire inside your garage and then the fire department tries to put it out with water.
“Auto makers BY LAW are required to warrant their batteries for 8 years or 100,000 miles.”
Unless it rains, and causes water damage Tesla doesn’t cover in its warranty https://www.thedrive.com/news/scottish-couple-left-with-huge-bill-for-replacement-tesla-battery
Never buy an EV!
So what’s the so what with this article? Is the author saying the current battery technology being used today is as good as it gets, and never charge a battery to more than 80% of its capacity, or the better battery of the future is just around the corner?
Sorry but simply do not believe anything written about EVs in the corporate media, corporate owned automobile and driver oriented publications or by non independent “journalists” writing or speaking in the media.
If all you are doing is traveling to work and back, they are probably adequate. However, until you can travel in winter, under adverse conditions and tow a heave trailer and charge up within a reasonable travel time frame, they are limited in their usefulness.
A gas vehicle might lose 15% of fuel efficiency in winter, adverse conditions and towing a trailer, but an electric car loses 3/4 and doesn’t charge up in 5 minutes.
The grid is maxed out so it early doesn’t matter. They are trying to kill oil gas coal nuclear, so walking looks like the alternative.
“It doesn’t have any cobalt or nickel, and it lasts a LONG time. Making it environmentally sustainable . . . I mean, they all are - but this one is especially so. . . . “
Oh yes. Perfect. Just like wind generators and not managing forests. (rolling eyes)
The battery revolution is just getting started.
I wonder if the slave labor mining for rare earth elements for those batteries feel the same way?
RE: BATTERIES
The little ones are a lot stronger than they used to be.
I recently pulled the “BEDBUGS” game out of the toy closet to play with my grandchildren. The plastic bugs hopped right off the bed. It was a lot louder than I remembered too.
Regular car batteries suck now. My last few batteries lasted little over 18 months. I remember them lasting 6-7 years not that long ago. Warranty periods have shrunk too.
Range constraints of an EV wouldn’t be much of a bother to me, but there is one financial effect on top of the price that has to be considered. Namely, the “Osborne Effect.” Osborne Computer Corp shot itself in the foot by announcing an upcoming product prematurely - with the result that its sales of its existing product dried up instantly. Tesla has not literally done that - but then, there is always an “Osborne Effect” chronically, when it’s known that your company has a history and a strategy of driving down the cost of production, and the sales price, of your product.
That was a problem industry-wide in the heyday of Moore’s Law when you had to always consider your computer purchase decisions in light of the knowledge that you could get more bang for your computer buck if you just waited another six months or year. That actually is still an issue with iPhones . . .
IMHO computer sellers should reduce that effect by offering valuable software for the oldest 10%, say, of its products at a significant discount. And Tesla is a computer seller; every Tesla comes with a computer as standard equipment and Tesla sells software over and above its standard suite.
The prospect of such a discount could be calibrated to keep the value of a used version of your product from dropping too precipitously. Or so I suppose . . .
Until they have the following issues, I’m sitting it out:
* Super long charge times. I want 30 minutes MAX (15 would be better)
* Temperature sensitivity. I want them to work in Phoenix and Anchorage at any time of the year.
* Low max output due to thermals. I want them to be able to crank out HIGH OUTPUT for the majority of their charge without baking themselves.
* Weight. I’d like a track car that weighs 1500 pounds MAX. As excessive weight is felt everywhere.
Until these hurdles are overcome, I’ll be over here.
“Electric cars were made a hundred years ago, but the battery chemistry just wasn’t there yet. They cost three times too much” Pretty much sounds like today.
There may be something in the lab that makes you technically correct, but it’s not being made commercially available because it’s not economically viable.
What we have has been super-computed for thirty years and they’ve maxed out what is available. What we have is all we can have and what we have is inadequate.
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