Support should be given to Israel. But as for ukraine not another penny!!!!!
How much: more than zero
How will they give it: without my consent
Forty billion to the Ukies delivered to the Zman by pallets on a forklift. FOUR billion to the Israelis but they have to pick it up at the Harvard and Yale student unions.
Your prediction. How long after the USA abandons Ukraine for Israel, or abandons both countries, will the Chinese attack Taiwan?
Your question sounds good, but Ukraine and Israel are two different entities.
Ukraine has had enough, Israel needs more.
I heard an Israeli spokesman say something this morning that most of us never consider;
"When 9/11 happened there in America, your enemy was thousands of miles away and there was always time to plan and set up for retaliation, OUR enemy is just a few blocks away"
(or words to that effect)
Think about it.
And how much will be stolen?
I saw a story a week or 2 back where Mrs Z spent over a million in the jewelry store in a single buy.
All of it.
The best aid we could give to both Israel and Ukraine is to drill baby drill and mine baby mine.
Simple and most honest reply is “all of it”.
Their goal is to crash the country.
It is past time to cut our losses in Ukraine. Israel is still a competent hard point in the Middle East and most of what we provide to them will actually go to fighting and winning a war.
The war in Ukraine is basically lost. They are on their third army mobilization and there are not enough fighting-aged men left to raise a fourth army. The Russians have them outnumbered and have substantial reserves available. It is grinding war of attrition, and superior numbers are prevailing.
The other horrible truth is that the Russians have gotten much better at war fighting, and the NATO doctrines and weapons systems are not holding the Russians in check. NATO is not learning as fast as the Russians are learning either.
Ukraine government officials are stealing most of what we provide to them in order to line their own pockets. Most likely there is 20% going back to selected Democrats and their cronies to keep this system going for a while.
Too many weapons provided to Ukraine have shown up in the hands of Hezbollah or even the Mexican cartel forces. This includes high-end sniper rifles, automatic weapons, crew-served weapons, and even Javelin anti-vehicle systems. They proudly show them on propaganda videos. WTF?
This needs to end.
Some big changes are needed in US and European military forces, most importantly, the replacement of top-level commanders. The people who presided over the deterioration of military capabilities are not the people who can fix those problems.
How many Jewish Billionairs are there in the United States ?
How much money have they donated to Israel ?
I might not care if we made those donations Tax deductable, but I do not want any more of my Taxes going to fund either Israel or Ukraine.
Whatever the Biden administration wants
250 billion for Zalensky and the Bidens, 50 billion for Gaza, and nothing for Israel
14b
40b
My guess.
The unanswered question is this. How much of that money will come back laundered into the hands of said politicians?
Hopefully we’ll give Israel the money they need - and hopefully we’ll STOP giving money to Ukraine until we get an accounting of how they’re spending OUR taxpayer dollars.
Here is my idea: Use the money formally spent on the international orgs that we leave, and give that money to Israel to Israel and South Korea,Japan, Poland plus the Phillipines only.
Meant only 1 Israel.