CATL Will Mass Produce Sodium-Ion Batteries in 2023

Sir/mam.... there is not a fiber in my body that cares about EVs or all things Green.

The entire thing is a scam to steal money from one group and make another group rich.

The moment anything has attached to it....tax incentives/rebates/deductions/credit/etc/etc...that means that the government is stepping in to tilt the scales to their preferred entity.

Batteries, solar panels, wind turbines, turbine blades....all toxic, all junk.

Yes, I know folk have been using solar for years. Good on them. They don’t deserve a break on their taxes because of it any more than someone buying an F150 with an EcoBoost engine.

You want EVs and believe in the gospel of...one day EVs will do this, that and the other thing...fine. Enjoy yourself.

Without the taxpayer all of it is a fantasy. Even the Wall St investors, invest knowing that the clowns in DC are all in and a bailout will be coming their way.

So, who gets screwed, again? The middle and working class.

The communist chinese make 97% of the solar cells. Using slave labor is as cheap as the cells will get.

I have never said anything in favor of communists in my life.
The fact apparently is that China’s standard of living has improved dramatically over the past generation because its government wasn't doing as much wrong as its ideology would suggest. Good on them, to that extent. My (liberal) daughter found opportunity in China, spent five years there and - conditions having changed - was glad to leave a year ago. I was certainly glad to have her out of there. Her children learned enough Chinese language to now be using it as their own private language among the two of them. So at least they’re maintaining some modicum of proficiency, I guess . . .
But when you see the price of a product dropping by 90% - and then dropping by a further 90% - you can’t attribute that to slave labor becoming a hundred times more exploitative. Not when the standard of living was that low to begin with, and has risen since. It can only have been done by learning by experience, and consequent efficiency and economies of scale.

Without the taxpayer all of it is a fantasy. Even the Wall St investors, invest knowing that the clowns in DC are all in and a bailout will be coming their way.

We’re all familiar with Moore’s Law . . . haven’t you ever wondered how much good it might have done the economy if the government had - say, in 1950 - sunk “way too much” money into buying computers? So that, ever afterward, the manufacture of computers was like 50% cheaper for having been pushed further down the learning curve by a year? I like the thought experiment, but it’s obviously a moot point.
I wasn’t in favor of the green agenda, and still have grave doubts about it. But we are where we are - and where we are is that battery electric vehicle design and production has in fact already been advanced along the learning curve at significant government expense. The great irony being that in all the world, including China, there is really only one company which is really profitable making EVs. China’s BYD is Tesla’s biggest competitor in that market, but their profit margin is thin whereas Tesla’s is fat. Basically nobody other than Tesla and BYD can make EVs at a profit. I think Ferrari - which, obviously, is actually a toy maker more than a producer of economical transportation - is the only manufacturer of automobiles which has a better profit margin than Tesla.
Ironically, Elon Musk turns out to be fascinated by something which it kryptonite to Democrats - truth. So he bought Twitter and exposed the machinations of the government to suppress truth there (and concomitantly in the MSM). And of course non-union Tesla is holding down prices of EVs so much that Big Auto has no chance at all of making enough money selling EVs to be able to stay in the business even by tapping its traditional business. Consequently Musk is now being harassed by the Justice Department by “investigations” of allegations no more sensible than the charges against Trump.
Anyone who thinks that Biden likes Musk and Tesla simply hasn’t been paying attention. After the UAW settlement, Big Auto will hardly make any EVs at all - while Tesla continues its (still small) growing penetration of the overall auto market. EVs sell much better in all other car markets than they do in red-state America. It’s not gonna take a lot more penetration by Tesla to start crimping the profits of Big Auto; on top of the UAW, Big Auto rather than Tesla is likely to be getting bailouts from the government (“Government Motors” redux).
I just saw a youTube video review (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1XOHcC-T1pE)
" I Drive The New Tesla Model 3 Refresh For The First Time! Small Updates Make For A Totally New Car”
of the newest version of Tesla’s most (comparatively) modestly priced vehicle, the Model 3 (not yet available in the US, the video was made in Europe). Currently the Model 3 is cheaper than half of the vehicles now bought in the US - meaning, more expensive than almost half of the vehicles now bought in the US. The review is pretty much a rave, tho obviously coming from a driver who owns a Tesla to begin with. And it’s only fair to warn you that the youTube video lasts 50 minutes.

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