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Posted on 10/28/2023 11:13:43 AM PDT by PROCON
Washington Gun Law President, William Kirk, discusses the recent tragic and horrible events which took place in Lewiston, Maine but today we focus on the laws which were designed to prevent something like this and why they didn't work.
We focus on Maine's Yellow Flag laws, which are a compromise between Red Flag laws and something far more resembling due process.
But there are very important lessons to learn from this, namely it does not matter how many laws you pass, you actually need to use them.
Maine's Yellow Flag Laws and Why They Didn't Work (10 1/2 min video)
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Flag laws are idiotic. You identify a homicidal maniac that it appears they will eminently do something. So you rush over and take away their gun. And then you leave them at home… Where they have access to obtain more guns, where they are surrounded by knives, gasoline, electricity, pressure cookers, poisons, hatches, axes, machetes, medieval Thor, bow and arrow, crossbow…
It’s astonishing to see the levels they will go to to avoid walking away someone mentally ill who appears on the verge of losing it, when the answer is so obvious. We need mental hospitals for such people. But no, we leave them on the street to walk around collecting trash in their hat and plotting their mass murder.
Gun free zones don’t work.
That is, when you are incarcerated you are not allowed to have a gun.
However we have started a trend of locking up people for process crimes and letting the people who commit property or crimes against persons run free.
We have also started to lock people in mental wards because it is in the interest of the bureaucrats to have these people confined without access to the legal system rather then locking up people who are threatening physical harm to other people.
These system failures are by design and it will not end well.
If there was only a law against murder on the books....
And it is true.
Let's not even get into what I have under my kitchen sink.
Shook my head last night when Sebastian Gorka (sitting in for Eric Bolling) showed a picture of the Maine bowling lanes with a huge THIS IS A GUN FREE ZONE over the front door.
Talk about asking for trouble and literally inviting a deranged lunatic to walk right in and shoot the place up!!!
IMO, all such public establishments should be encouraged to have at least one trained guard on site positioned near the entrance to provide some hope to limit casualties.
And, I used to be against guns.
Agreed. If someone is threatening enough to take their firearms, they should be locked up either criminally or for mental health reasons.
The business owner should be liable.
Long term INPATIENT psychiatric treatment offers zero access to guns. But the facilities want to put people out on the street as quickly as possible.
Because they are all WOKE LIBS. Fall into the IDIOT category.
If you get a chance to watch the video and comment, thanks.
It all starts with the psychiatric facility where he self-reported and was hospitalized for two weeks. This guy lost all control way before he murdered these people and sought help. Obviously, they didn’t take him seriously. Imagine a person going to the hospital with severe chest pains, shortness of breath etc, do a quick EKG, blood pressure and send them home that same day and dies of a heart attack the next morning. MALPRACTICE.
1. What were the terms of his release, he should have been required to return for evaluation at a minimum of twice a week. If he missed the first appointment, immediate surrender back to the facility.
2. It is reported he was hearing voices and threatened to shoot up a military base. Were the physicians aware he was a firearms expert and ex-military? If they didn’t know they should have.
3. Did they monitor his medications, were they helping or worsening his symptoms. Was he even taking them? Was he required to be supervised by a family member?
Just a SWAG, but most of these assclowns don’t really care about no steenkin’ laws. Yellow, green, red, blue, purple....
I’m upset at the US government because this tragedy along with others in the past and in the future could be avoided if only they took care of former military members. Throughout my business career I have worked with people that have different levels of PTSD. I am very angry because when men and women are young they join the military with hopes and dreams only to be used and abused and then dumped like trash. They come out with many problems and are not helped as they should be and then we end up with mass shootings. We need to help our veterans not treat them like feral animals.
Exactly. We think someone is mentally deranged, a menace to their self and others. So we rush over and take away their gun… And leave them psychotic maniac unhospitalized.
“Anarcho-tyranny”
Maine has a provision for involuntary civil commitment, too.
Still wondering what LE in ME knew and when they knew it.
Another opinion piece... So it’s lacking in facts and reality.
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