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To: grey_whiskers
By your specious logic, cigarettes are safe too.

Right. There happens to be a ton of high quality research that shows the deleterious effects of using tobacco. Our everyday observations are consistent with this scientific opinion, since most of us probably know someone who died from a tobacco related illness, even though less than 10% of the population uses tobacco. My own father died of a lung disease caused by smoking.

On the other hand, the only "evidence" we have that vaccines are dangerous comes from professional antivaxxers who keep telling us they are dangerous. They can produce no scientific studies to support their claims. If we are to believe some of their wildest claims, everyone who got vaccinated is supposed to die soon. (The exact timeframe keeps getting pushed back, as we keep failing to die.) The US has 332 million people, of whom 81% or 270 million or 4 of every 5 people have received one dose of vaccine.

So, if the predictions of widespread death due to vaccine were based on the results of actual scientific studies, I would expect to see people dropping dead all the time by now. It's been over two years since the vaccines were rolled out, but where are all the dead people? Why aren't the stores empty when I go shopping? Why aren't most of my friends and family dead? Why aren't I dead?

You see, when scientists have established that something is harmful to health, there is a strong likelihood that you actually know or know of people who have died from that thing. But when a bunch of kooks make a claim that something is dangerous despite a complete lack of scientific evidence, you won't actually see or hear of anyone dying from it, because that's not happening.

Oh, I know that professional creators of antivax rhetoric love to use that word "consensus" to try to discredit scientists. However, when scientists reach a consensus, it means that they are all doing research and coming up with consistent results. For example, it rained this morning. If I were to go around asking my neighbors, they would probably tell me that the ground is now wet. If I find that 100 people in my neighborhood agree that the ground is wet, the fact that they have a consensus does NOT invalidate the fact that the ground is wet. It means that they all made the same observation.

Science is about doing research and obtaining results that are consistent with the theory and previous research in the field.

Oh, FYI. Most "Big Pharma" activity is centered around manufacturing and sales of drugs. Most early drug development takes place at research institutes, biotech companies, and universities. There is quite a complicated process involved in taking an early drug candidate and getting a pharmaceutical company to sponsor further development. So, your distrust of "Big Pharma" scientists basically means that you distrust any scientist who does research. The bottom line is that just about all research is aimed towards the development of better drugs, no matter who does the research where.

50 posted on 10/26/2023 2:56:07 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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To: exDemMom
Right. There happens to be a ton of high quality research that shows the deleterious effects of using tobacco. Our everyday observations are consistent with this scientific opinion, since most of us probably know someone who died from a tobacco related illness, even though less than 10% of the population uses tobacco. My own father died of a lung disease caused by smoking.

Hindsight is always 20/20, dingbat. The tobacco scientists hid behind the "not PROVEN!" excuse that you shot shills are, until the non-controlled data became too much to ignore, and honest studies were done.

But even with that, many of the harmful effects of smoking only manifested over decades.

But somehow, even your own father dying from smoking-related causes, doesn't keep you from raising your eyebrows and archly taunting "Where are all the dead bodies?" only a couple years after the mass introduction of the clot shots; and after a rash of notable deaths and other never-before-seen happenings, such as multiple on-air personalities passing out or having seizures on camera, or world-class athletes personally discussing their cardiovascular side effects within a day or a couple of days of the clot-shots.

Get rekt, troll.

54 posted on 10/26/2023 3:12:47 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom

Nice try.

Sadly people on the Internet pushing this professor’s work as being exonerated are either ignorant, willfully ignorant or insufficient intellect to understand.

It is what is is.


55 posted on 10/26/2023 3:39:03 PM PDT by Fury
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To: exDemMom; ransomnote
Please drop the "ex" and "mom" from your handle.

You are now DEM

59 posted on 10/26/2023 6:52:41 PM PDT by MountainDad (A strong man stands up for himself. A stronger man stands up for others. Support your local militia.)
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To: exDemMom
Science is about doing research and obtaining results that are consistent with the theory and previous research in the field.

Oh, like what Barry Marshall won the Nobel Prize for?

Dingbat.

72 posted on 10/26/2023 10:54:52 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
So, your distrust of "Big Pharma" scientists basically means that you distrust any scientist who does research.

No, I just know better than to trust Big Pharma.

Remember FDA-approved Vioxx?

Safe and effective, until it wasn't.

Remember the $18 BILLION (yes, with a "B") fine for the false claims made while marketing Vioxx?

Guess which company made it.

Notice how that company didn't rush pell-mell into manufactured RNA jobs (specifically engineered to resist degradation by the body) masquerading as vaccines.

Troll.

73 posted on 10/26/2023 11:00:24 PM PDT by grey_whiskers ( The opinions are solely those of the author and are subject to change without notice.)
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To: exDemMom
Science is about doing research and obtaining results that are consistent with the theory and previous research in the field.

Ya know, I ALMOST believed you are a scientist--until you came up with that little gem.

If you do not even know what science "is about" then you really should not be talking with the adults.

90 posted on 10/27/2023 8:56:15 AM PDT by ShadowAce (Linux - The Ultimate Windows Service Pack )
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