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To: exDemMom

The Lancet’s reputation continues to decline: Whether its reputation in the medical field will survive its conduct relative to COVID remains questionable
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/3979181/posts

Now the world’s most famous medical journal the Lancet is accused of costing lives by sitting on a study showing human transmission of Covid-19 that was suppressed by China
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3978984/posts

The Lancet has made one of the biggest retractions in modern history. How could this happen?
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3852581/posts

A Second Major COVID-19 Study Is Retracted; First the Lancet, Now the New England Journal of Medicine
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-bloggers/3852676/posts

Lancet Formally Retracts Fake Hydroxychloroquine Study Used By Media To Attack Trump
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3852150/posts

The Lancet casts doubt over its own Hydroxychloroquine study
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/3851745/posts

And there are more than that if you do a keyword search on *Lancet*.

Between these examples and what we know of peer review in regard to the whole climate change hoax, peer review itself has also been discredited as well.

The scientific community is nothing more than the old boys club back slapping and high fiving each other for promoting whatever the official narrative is at the moment.


47 posted on 10/26/2023 2:24:57 PM PDT by metmom (He who testifies to these things says, “Surely I am coming soon.” Amen. Come, Lord Jesus.)
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To: metmom
Oh, finally, at last, some links. Unfortunately, they are to other FR posts, not directly to the scientific literature. This makes more work for me, since I actually do track down the original sources and read them before I can comment. Link #1: The assertion that The Lancet's reputation has been damaged is an opinion/wishful thinking written by a blogger who published in American Thinker and who used the less-than-credible magazine Vanity Fair as a source. This is not based on any survey of how scientists view the credibility of The Lancet.

The full text of the letter to the editor published in The Lancet is this:

Statement in support of the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China combatting COVID-19

We are public health scientists who have closely followed the emergence of 2019 novel coronavirus disease (COVID-19) and are deeply concerned about its impact on global health and wellbeing. We have watched as the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of China, in particular, have worked diligently and effectively to rapidly identify the pathogen behind this outbreak, put in place significant measures to reduce its impact, and share their results transparently with the global health community. This effort has been remarkable.

We sign this statement in solidarity with all scientists and health professionals in China who continue to save lives and protect global health during the challenge of the COVID-19 outbreak. We are all in this together, with our Chinese counterparts in the forefront, against this new viral threat.

The rapid, open, and transparent sharing of data on this outbreak is now being threatened by rumours and misinformation around its origins. We stand together to strongly condemn conspiracy theories suggesting that COVID-19 does not have a natural origin. Scientists from multiple countries have published and analysed genomes of the causative agent, severe acute respiratory syndrome coronavirus 2 (SARS-CoV-2) and they overwhelmingly conclude that this coronavirus originated in wildlife as have so many other emerging pathogens. This is further supported by a letter from the presidents of the US National Academies of Science, Engineering, and Medicine13 and by the scientific communities they represent. Conspiracy theories do nothing but create fear, rumours, and prejudice that jeopardise our global collaboration in the fight against this virus. We support the call from the Director-General of WHO to promote scientific evidence and unity over misinformation and conjecture. We want you, the science and health professionals of China, to know that we stand with you in your fight against this virus.

We invite others to join us in supporting the scientists, public health professionals, and medical professionals of Wuhan and across China. Stand with our colleagues on the frontline!

We speak in one voice. To add your support for this statement, sign our letter online. LM is editor of ProMED-mail. We declare no competing interests.

I can assure you that in no way did The Lancet's decision to publish this letter to the editor damage The Lancet's reputation or credibility among the research community.

I will point out that the scientists of China are comparable to any of their US or European counterparts. Many of them were actually educated in the US. We must never conflate the work of the Chinese scientists with the early efforts of the communist Chinese government to shut down and persecute the scientists and physicians who did the early work to characterize the outbreak and identify the causative agent.

As the letter authors pointed out, by the time this letter was published on March 07, 2020, there was already a solid body of evidence indicating that the outbreak occurred because of an animal to human transmission of a novel coronavirus occurring at the Huanan seafood market. By now, more than three years later, the body of evidence has grown considerably.

The ProMED-mail mentioned at the end of the letter is a website run by the International Society for Infectious Diseases in which infectious disease experts around the world inform each other about disease outbreaks and new developments on existing infectious diseases.

Here is a helpful hint: never expect the scientific community to validate antivax/anti-science conspiracies and rhetoric. It's not going to happen.

Due to the fact that this post is already several hundred words long, I am not going to discuss the other FR links that you posted. However, if you really insist, I am fully capable of discussing them. Just not now. It takes time to track down and read information, and I have other things to do.

56 posted on 10/26/2023 4:26:46 PM PDT by exDemMom (Dr. exDemMom, infectious disease and vaccines research specialist.)
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