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Cautionary Tale in an Alabama Forest: When in a Gunfight, Don’t Hesitate
AmmoLand ^ | October 13, 2023 | Dean Weingarten

Posted on 10/16/2023 5:06:27 AM PDT by marktwain

On August 14, 2022, Adam Simjee and his longtime girlfriend, Mikayla Paulus, were on a road trip through wild Alabama country before returning to college.

They decided to help a woman who appeared to have had a vehicle breakdown. The woman, Yasmine Hider, was planning to rob them or worse. Adam was a dedicated Second Amendment supporter. He had tucked a concealed pistol in his waistband because he was suspicious of the circumstances. After Adam and Mikayla had been working on the broke-down vehicle for an hour without success, Hider pulled out a handgun and ordered them to drop their cell phones, empty their pockets, and give up their bank and cell phone passwords. Then she marched them into the forest. Adam waited for an opportunity to draw his firearm.

In situations such as this, the assailant is often momentarily distracted. From abc3340.com:

“Adam had his gun on him the whole time because he said, ‘This is how people get robbed,'” she said, “So I was just waiting on him to use it.”

Paulus described what happened next, “Adam pulled out his gun and told her to get on the ground and that’s when she started messing around with her gun. It jammed once but they both shot at each other and she was shot a few times and he was shot only once.”

 Law and Crime supply a few more details. From Law and Crime:

At one point, HIDER looked away and lowered her guard, Victim #1 pulled his pistol from his waistband and ordered HIDER to drop her weapon. HIDER said, “Are you serious?” She cocked her gun and started firing, and Victim # 1 returned fire simultaneously while falling to the ground. While on the ground, Victim #1 said, “You shot me,” and fired one last time


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TOPICS: Hobbies
KEYWORDS: al; banglist; defense; gunfight; juststayaway; rkba; scottadams; scottadamswasright
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To: marktwain

Best to be judged by 12 than carried by 6 was never more appropriate.


21 posted on 10/16/2023 6:12:17 AM PDT by apoliticalone (We need real justice not fictitious SOCIAL JUSTICE & DEI that is politics & propaganda, not justice.)
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To: Alberta's Child; Dartoid
You think that's weird? This is from Dartoid's link:

Paulus had told police that she saw a second woman in the woods during the incident, the AP reported.

About a half a mile away from where the shootout happened, authorities found a camp where they believe Hider and a second woman, Krystal Diane Pinkins, had been living with Pinkins' young son, according to the AP.

"As officers were ordering the female to the ground, a 5-year-old child ran from the woods holding a loaded shotgun," police said, according to the AP. The child eventually put down the gun, the AP said.


22 posted on 10/16/2023 6:14:44 AM PDT by logi_cal869 (-cynicus the "concern troll" a/o 10/03/2018 /!i!! &@$%&*(@ -)
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To: BudgieRamone

Great suggestion.Thank you.


23 posted on 10/16/2023 6:18:14 AM PDT by georgia peach (georgia peach)
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To: marktwain

Sometimes, even if you don’t hesitate, you can still get killed. A few years ago, a young deputy in my county stopped a perp on an out-of-town country road for erratic driving. His dash camera captured the whole grizzly scene. He approached the truck with his gun drawn, but the driver emerged with a short-barreled AR. The deputy began firing first, striking the perp multiple times, but the perp managed to get off a few shots, striking the deputy. After the deputy went down, the perp still managed to get back in the truck and drive across the state line 50 miles away. He was finally caught by Louisiana state troopers after he ran off the road and tried to escape on foot. This was the first time to date that a peace officer in my county was killed on duty.

Even if you shoot first, facing an armed adversary is damned dangerous business.


24 posted on 10/16/2023 6:23:08 AM PDT by eastexsteve
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To: eastexsteve
Even if you shoot first, facing an armed adversary is damned dangerous business.

Yes, it is. Far better to avoid the gun fight, if you can.

25 posted on 10/16/2023 6:24:49 AM PDT by marktwain
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To: SteelPSUGOP

Right! They worked on the car for an hour in the middle of nowhere? Very sad.


26 posted on 10/16/2023 6:25:40 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: Alberta's Child

My thought too!


27 posted on 10/16/2023 6:26:21 AM PDT by quilterdebbie (We will endeavor to persevere!)
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To: marktwain

What a beautiful day with my girlfriend in a remote Alabama wilderness.

What? A Muslim needs help.

Sure I’ll stop and work on her are for an hour. What could go wrong.


28 posted on 10/16/2023 6:46:33 AM PDT by HIDEK6 (God bless Donald Trump. )
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To: marktwain
The perp named Yasmine Hider was shot and lived while Adam Simjee died. Hider pleaded guilty and was sentenced to 35 years.


29 posted on 10/16/2023 6:47:45 AM PDT by plain talk
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To: marktwain

The simple rule is...if you pull the weapon than you should pull the trigger.


30 posted on 10/16/2023 6:58:36 AM PDT by joma89 (Buy weapons and ammo, folks, and have the will to use them.)
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To: plain talk

35 years? In Alabama? This should have been an automatic death penalty case.


31 posted on 10/16/2023 7:06:55 AM PDT by princeofdarkness
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To: marktwain

Yasmine Hider. Let’s just say she ain’t Amish.

Hate to say but I won’t stop for blacks or Mexicans along the road. Hope they have AAA.


32 posted on 10/16/2023 7:08:23 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: BudgieRamone

We live in a much different time than our parents and grandparents did.

Unfortunately.


33 posted on 10/16/2023 7:23:30 AM PDT by NFHale (The Second Amendment - By Any Means Necessary.)
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To: princeofdarkness
This should have been an automatic death penalty case.

Agree. Premeditated murder of a stranger doesn't get much more heinous than this.

34 posted on 10/16/2023 7:28:46 AM PDT by NorthMountain (... the right of the peopIe to keep and bear arms shall not be infringed)
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To: marktwain

I wonder Yasmine Hider what other victims she has killed.


35 posted on 10/16/2023 7:32:58 AM PDT by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: marktwain

I call it “Tuco’s Rule”.


36 posted on 10/16/2023 7:35:35 AM PDT by yefragetuwrabrumuy ("All he had was a handgun. Why did you think that was a threat?" --Rittenhouse Prosecutor)
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To: marktwain

Why would he give her a warning. No warning required in this case.


37 posted on 10/16/2023 7:44:13 AM PDT by Revel
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To: marktwain

“Then she marched them into the forest.”

When she led them into the woods at gunpoint that would be enough for me to assume she intended to kill me and I wouldn’t have hesitated for a moment to kill her at the first opportunity.


38 posted on 10/16/2023 7:48:21 AM PDT by jimwatx
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To: marktwain
From the article: The killer, Yasmine Marie Adel Hider, a black female, was seated several feet away against a fallen pine tree with four gun-shot wounds, three to the abdomen and one to the upper right leg...

The deceased, Adam Simjee, needed a larger caliber weapon. Whatever he had tucked in his waistband wasn't sufficient enough to take out his killer despite three shots to the abdomen and one to the upper right leg.

It wasn't a case of "shot but didn't bleed out until later". The killer survived.

39 posted on 10/16/2023 7:54:53 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: AppyPappy

“Give the warning after you shoot them”

EXACTLY CORRECT!

Too much TV.


40 posted on 10/16/2023 8:19:59 AM PDT by faucetman (Just the facts, ma'am, Just the facts )
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