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To: RandFan

I have never understood how RFK jr was going to grab a lot of MAGA voters away from Trump. It has always seemed obvious to me that many Democrat voters, given a choice between the Kennedy family and Biden, would gladly move away from Biden.


5 posted on 10/15/2023 9:32:12 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: ClearCase_guy

He’s a raving liberal except he says some good stuff on vaccines

This will become clearer in a General Election.

I’ve always thought he’d take the votes from Biden and Democrats.

There are a lot of scare stories in the media.


6 posted on 10/15/2023 9:34:42 AM PDT by RandFan
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To: ClearCase_guy

“It has always seemed obvious to me that many Democrat voters, given a choice between the Kennedy family and Biden, would gladly move away from Biden.”

indeed ...

only those who HATE biden and HATE trump AND are quite happy with the status quo will throw their vote away on a 3rd party candidate who has zero chance to change the status quo ...

all those who are truly unhappy and disgusted and/or have been reduced to penury by the policies of the bidenistas and are desperate for change will NOT waste their votes on a symbolic 3rd party candidate but instead WILL vote for change ...

all the strum and drang by the deep state democrat fascist propaganda media that RFKJ is the great trump slayer is just that: propaganda ... either that or they’re just whistling past the graveyard ...


13 posted on 10/15/2023 9:56:30 AM PDT by catnipman (A Vote For The Lesser Of Two Evils Still Counts As A Vote For Evil)
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To: ClearCase_guy

1. That may have been based in part on people here and elsewhere on the Internet who liked Bobby Jr. so much that they wanted Trump to pick him as a running mate.

2. I don’t think it’s so much die-hard Trump voters who were a concern, but the swing voters who may have gone for Trump in 2016 and then stayed home or voted for Biden in 2020. The idea was that those disaffected, anti-Establishment voters would go for Kennedy this time, but it looks like the potential Trump voters who might desert may be outnumbered by disaffected Democrats who have come to dislike and distrust Biden.

3. PA, MI, and WI are some of the Northeast/Midwest states where the Kennedy family was popular and defections to Kennedy would be expected. In other parts of the country it was believed that Kennedy might draw more votes from Trump. That’s looking a bit shaky now, since according to the polls, Kennedy hurts Biden more than Trump in GA and NC. Admittedly, those were states John F. Kennedy carried in 1960, but the poll does indicate that there are plenty of Southern Democrat voters who would prefer Kennedy to Biden. Probably Southern Republicans have more reasons to distrust Kennedy.


14 posted on 10/15/2023 9:56:42 AM PDT by x
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To: ClearCase_guy

There a lot of anti Biden voters who don’t like Trump.

So Kennedy splits the Anti Biden vote in the middle. Dems only need a few % split to swing purple states to Biden

Dem voters will vote for “their team” they do not split off and chase third party fabels. The idea that Kennedy hurts Biden is nonsense. If he did, the Dems would of paid him off to make sure he would not be in the race.


15 posted on 10/15/2023 9:57:21 AM PDT by MNJohnnie (Don't blame me, my congressman is MTG!)
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To: ClearCase_guy

See the Daily Mail article posted here, though. Trump was outpolling Biden nationally in a two person race recently. Now with Kennedy in the race, they are saying it’s dead-even. So while the spin here is that Kennedy helps Trump, the spin there is that he helps Biden. Granted, elections are decided at the state level in the swing states, but the only poll that counts is the one a year from now.


21 posted on 10/15/2023 10:14:23 AM PDT by x
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