I don't think either of us would have a problem distinguishing our historically corrupt Democrat regime from average Americans, especially from naturally conservative Americans who believe in our traditional values.
Neither of us would suggest that just because we are temporarily under a corrupt administration that therefore the entire American population should be punished in hell forever by giving up huge territories to invaders from... oh, Canada or Mexico.
On Ukraine, our pro-Russian posters here are obsessed with alleged "corruption" in Ukraine, it literally drives you guys batty and yet there is no evidence I've seen that Ukrainian corruption is any worse than other similar countries.
Indeed, corruption in Ukraine is objectively less than in Russia and is publicly investigated and rooted out by the Zelenskyy administration, much more so than in even our own government.
OKSooner: "How about Democrat/Joe Biden war/notwar, or foreign entanglement in the service of a corrupt CIA junta in Ukraine yes or no?
Not even a little scrutiny on your part?
Frankly what does that make you?"
All of that is pure nonsense, Russian propaganda lies that no serious person should take seriously.
The historical truth is vastly different from what Vlad the Invader concocted to justify his grossly illegal and unprovoked invasion of a sovereign independent country -- or rather countries, since Ukraine is far from the only one.
OKSooner: "Since the bloodbath in the service of corruption and money laundering began in Ukraine, Poland has conspicuously cut Ukraine off and is not prioritizing their own defense by conserving their resources. "
The dispute with Poland is over economic issues involving the export of Ukraine's grain and is likely to be resolved by Poland's new government.
Nobody not in the service of Russian propaganda considers this a serious matter.
OKSooner: "Germany is tapping the brakes a bit too."
I think somebody forgot to tell the Germans themselves about the latest Russian propaganda.
This report is dated October 10, 2023:
- "FRANKFURT, Oct 10 (Reuters) - Germany on Tuesday unveiled a fresh support package for Ukraine worth around 1 billion euros ($1.1 billion), its defence ministry said, adding the programme covered air defense, weapons and ground vehicles.
"Germany will continue to support Ukraine with what it needs most urgently - air defence, ammunition and tanks," German Defence Minister Boris Pistorius said.
"With this new 'winter package' we are further increasing the operational readiness of the Ukrainian armed forces in the coming months."
Pistorius said the package covered an additional Patriot air defense missile system - which was flagged by Chancellor Olaf Scholz last week - as well as an additional IRIS-T system and Gepard anti-aircraft-gun tank."
OKSooner: "It would seem that one who claims to be rational would begin to ask some questions about Democrat Joe Biden's war/notwar at this point, but what we get from you is some blather about some treaty that was signed by Bill Clinton with the previous, actually legitimate government of Ukraine that preceded the Zelensky/CIA junta."
That is insane Russian propaganda nonsense, not supported by a single fact, mere ravings from the paranoid imagination of Russia's lunatic leader, Vlad the Invader.
The real truth is that Ukraine has constitutionally legitimately elected six presidents since 1991, two of them since the alleged "CIA coup" in 2014.
Everything else you learned from Russian propaganda is lies and irrelevant.
OKSooner: "Tell you what, I'm not gonna stoop to someone else's level of name calling and accusation, but how about just you and I agree to disagree about Evil Democrat Joe's war/notwar?
I don't think I can reason you out of anything that you weren't reasoned into in the first place.
There's something else going on here with you that I choose to leave alone.
Thank you."
I certainly appreciate what sounds like your offer to stick to civil discourse, but the problem is so much of your argument here is just Russian propaganda BS straight from the Kremlin's sewer pipe.
And it's inconceivable to me why any reasonable person would ever accept such nonsense uncritically.
There has to be something else going on inside your brain that has nothing to do with being a traditional Free Republic style conservative, and I just can't figure out what that is.
Some of our posters here have freely confessed they are not traditional conservatives, they think conservatives are their enemies and propose to rule over us with some -- God know what -- fascistic incarnation of past dictators like Pinochet in Chile, Salazar in Portugal and Franco in Spain!!!
Honest to God, talk about America being corrupted from within, I never expected to see this day on Free Republic.
So here's my counter-offer to you OKSooner -- if you will post here actual facts and serious reasons supporting Vlad the Invader's "special military operations" since 2014 in Ukraine, I will patiently explain and show why your alleged facts are not true and your reasons are pure nonsense.
I think important arguments deserve serious efforts in response.