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To: Vlad0; Widget Jr; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Monterrosa-24; jmacusa
VladO: "I don’t see a #4 where Ukraine wins."

That's only because you've been blinded by the Russian propaganda Kool-Aid you keep guzzling.

  1. #4) Russia has a larger population than Ukraine, but a smaller population of non-Russians it can send into the Ukraine meat-grinder.
    Eventually, Vlad the Invader is forced to conscript actual Russians to fight for him and they say, "hell no, we won't go, go Vlad yourself."
    Russia's war effort grinds to an end and collapses.

  2. #5) The Old Soviets exploded their first nuke test in 1949 and every day since they threatened to nuke anybody who looked crosswise at them.
    Fortunately, they never did or the world would be a much different place today.
    Now Old Soviet KGB agent, Vlad the Invader, is again threatening to nuke the world, but any sane person recognizes that is a threat of, in effect, suicide by cop.
    If he starts throwing nukes around, it will not end the world, or the West, but it will end Russia as a nation and a people.
    They will be gone forever, and why would any sane person do such a thing?

    And if Vlad the Invader ordered a nuke attack on anybody, who around him would follow such suicidal orders?
    It is far more likely that Vlad will fall out of a high-story window, or maybe suddenly contract an incurable disease.

  3. #6) Of course, I can't know the minds of Ukraine's military leaders, but if they were me, I'd want to develop a highly capable reserve force, used in combat, but not depleted of energy or equipment, to be trained & increased each month with new western equipment, and then held back until conditions are right for victory, to include destruction of Russian logistics, supplies, bridges and troop morale.
    If that takes until 2024 or longer, so be it.
The US Revolutionary War lasted six years -- from 1776 to 1781 at Yorktown.
We fought against the world's second greatest super-power of that time (France was still #1) and had military & economic aid from several European allies.
Victory over the Brits only came after a multi-national, combined arms assault on British navy and army positions.
It took our diplomats in Paris all those years to convince the French to give us enough of the right kinds of aid to win the war.

Ukraine has been fighting in earnest since 2022, less than two years.
At this stage in our War of Independence, we were in very desperate straits, hunkered down in the snows of Valley Forge, starving and sick, most enlistments soon to expire.

So, war is hell on earth, and not always over in just a three day "special military operation".

30 posted on 10/15/2023 4:07:35 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

The US War of Independence lasted six years, from 1775 to 1781.

Sorry for the typo!


31 posted on 10/15/2023 4:12:28 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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