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To: DallasBiff
As I wrote elsewhere, a good friend's father was recently hospitalized with a heart attack and hooked up to machines. The attending doctor didn't think the old man would make it. ,p>My friend, respecting Dad's wishes to not be on machines, signed a paper approving the de-machining and putting the Dad on "comfort care" which (IN GENERAL) is basically no curative care.

That was ok - that was the Dad's wishes.

The old man pulled through, but the hospital refused to put Dad back on fluids or nutrition because - you guessed it - "comfort care" IN THAT HOSPITAL and for THAT DOCTOR is effectively Terri Schaivo-style starvation and dehydration.

They said, food and water was a medical treatment and thus "curative" and AGAINST the rules of "comfort care."

My friend was stunned. And the attending and her team wouldn't budge _ ”you signed the document giving consent.

For the next few days, my friend and siblings heard from scores of nurses etc that withholding fluids was effectively "the right thing to do"....very Terri Schaivo-like. They also threw in “Dad live a good long life” and “he will never come back the way he was.”

It took a virtual miracle whereby a different doctor intervened, said the father clearly wasn't terminal, and put the old man back on nutrition and fluids.

While my friend's Dad passed away peacefully in his sleep a few weeks later, it was on the Dad’s terms.

It’s also worth noting that the siblings were split on “comfort care.” There WAS a view that it was ok for Dad to dehydrate to death. Someone even said that dehydration is painless; I hear the total opposite during the Schaivo murder.

Euthanasia is, technically, illegal. And I know many people would be OK if fluids were withheld when it is THEIR time to go. Fair enough.

But euthanasia can be made legal if you're not careful with the Fine Print or vetting the "mercy killing" mindset of the attending…

…OR THE ROBOT THAT IS TRAINED TO BE ‘MERCIFUL.’

3 posted on 10/13/2023 10:57:20 AM PDT by DoodleBob (Gravity's waiting period is about 9.8 m/s²e a truck through this law.)
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To: DoodleBob

I remember reading your account before. Just amazing…


6 posted on 10/13/2023 11:17:38 AM PDT by telescope115 (I NEED MY SPACE!!! 🔭)
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To: DoodleBob

Your friend needs to file a complaint with the joint commission and if applicable CMS against the hospital. Additionally, file a complaint with the state board of medicine against the doctor (license complaint). This is not comfort care. Unless specific direction from the POA or properly drafted snd certified living will specifying withholding of nutrition and / or fluids, this is an egregious violation of our cannon of ethics. Period.


10 posted on 10/13/2023 12:43:21 PM PDT by gas_dr (Conditions of Socratic debate: Intelligence, Candor, and Good Will)
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