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To: delta7; Reno89519; kiryandil; UMCRevMom@aol.com; Widget Jr
Reno89519 post #9: "Ukraine is OVER.
Surrender or cease-fire.
Time to move on."

delta7: "Surrender, large groups are now surrendering…..this is just one geo located video of many."

First, Ukraine will be "over" when Russia removes it's military forces from all recognized Ukrainian territories, including Crimea, and not one day before.

Reasonable people hope that a master-negotiator like Pres. Trump will find a fair solution, but absent that possibility, Ukrainians will continue to fight for what is rightfully theirs.

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Second, delta7, your Russian propaganda video is fake.

There are no reliable numbers on surrenders of either Russians or Ukrainians.

A good guess would be there were a lot of surrenders on both sides during the early months of the war, when the lines of battle moved frequently.

Today, probably not so many, though each side publishes reports of broken morale among their enemies.
No way to say for sure which reports, if any, are true.

42 posted on 10/10/2023 7:13:50 AM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

The Pro- Putin invasion squad are just attempting to prevent their current false agitprop from being revealed.

The term ‘AGITPROP’ of using political slogans and half-truths were specific to the Marxism practiced by communists in the Soviet Union. Originally, the label was a shortened form of the ‘Agitation and Propaganda Section of the Central Committee Secretariat of the Communist Party’ in the Soviet Union.

Today, AGITPROP is just the modernization of this same political strategy. Often, this AGITPROP version may be found within public forums and chat-rooms.

The “Pro-Putin Russian invasion” distractors and detractors are just applying ‘agitation and propaganda’ techniques to ‘troll’ others in an attempt to influence public opinion.
“Pro-Putin Russian invasion” lurkers are about to vomit more of their AGITPROP!


48 posted on 10/10/2023 8:57:15 AM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com (Pray for God's intervention to stop Putin's invasion of Ukraine )
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To: BroJoeK

Second, delta7, your Russian propaganda video is fake.
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Yeah right. Odyssey, Bitchute, T.ME, Slavyaguard, and many more must be all fabricating fake videos….words are cheap, video ( geo- located video) says more than words.

Believe what you want to.


70 posted on 10/10/2023 11:43:20 AM PDT by delta7
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