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Update from Ukraine | Ukraine pushed back the Ruzzian attack Z-Army lost many tanks | Israel Update
Youtube.com ^ | 10-9-2023 | Denys Davydov

Posted on 10/09/2023 6:51:47 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com

Update from Ukraine | Ukraine pushed back the Ruzzian attack Z-Army lost many tanks | Israel Update

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bZIlJSvoyeg

The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 4th October 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [NOTE: two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]

The weekly recap of the latest unit changes on our Deployment map. A collection of the most significant changes on our Deployment map during the past week. All information based on publicly available sources. https://militaryland.net/news/recap-deployment-map-changes-week-40/

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To: ought-six; BroJoeK; Widget Jr; USA-FRANCE; SunkenCiv

Even if our comparitive losses in the Revolution were only around 2.5 million (extrapolated from 25,000) that is still around 5 times our 1/2 million lost in WW2.ss

France suffered a far greater loss, as the economic weakness coused by their contribution was a serious factor in the subsequent French overthrow of the monarchy and executions of thousands by guillotine (sp?). Hero Laffayete and family were also imprisoned in France and faced death in consequence. French help was not the only cause of their economic problems, the Laki Fissure event in Iceland also affected European prosperity as was noted by Benjamin Franklin who was in Europe during that period.


61 posted on 10/10/2023 10:00:50 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Get lost pos.

My Biden... FU


62 posted on 10/10/2023 10:09:44 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: gleeaikin

Oops I misread your post. Apologies.


63 posted on 10/10/2023 10:43:03 AM PDT by Williams (Stop Tolerating The Intolerant)
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To: gleeaikin; MalPearce; alexander_busek; Williams; Widget Jr; Timber Rattler; MeganC
"Your Presiedent Biden released $6 billion in money that belonged to Iran in exchange for rleasing US captives as had been negotiated. Perhaps a stupid agreement, but can you imagine how hard it would be to ever negotiate anything important if our presidents did not follow through on what we negotiate?"

official US policy is that we do not pay Danegeld for hostages. All that your hero Biden did was put a bounty on all Americans to be kidnapped for ransom. Neocons are #%&@ idiotic appeasers.

64 posted on 10/10/2023 10:48:50 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: gleeaikin

“Even if our comparitive losses in the Revolution were only around 2.5 million (extrapolated from 25,000) that is still around 5 times our 1/2 million lost in WW2.”

The 25,000 would represent about 1% of the total colonial population of the time, of whom about 1/3 were loyalists, 1/3 were anti-loyalists, pro-independence, and 1/3 who waited to see how the war turned out before picking a side. That’s a sizeable chunk of dead anyway you look at it. Using that 1% standard today, we’d suffer 3.3 million dead under a similar scenario.


65 posted on 10/10/2023 10:59:40 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: wildcard_redneck
#1. When you start fights with other posters, leave me out of it unless I am already involved.

#2. No one on this forum approved given Iran 6 billion last August and you know it.

#3. Checking your post history, you posted nothing about Biden given money to Iran.
  Now you accuse others of supporting what you voiced no opposition.

#4. No one here likes or supports Biden and you know it.

#5. Your bullying and name calling is boring. Get over yourself.

66 posted on 10/10/2023 11:12:27 AM PDT by Widget Jr (9/11 - 11/M - 10/7)
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To: ought-six

Like then, the US is still divided into 3 large chunks, one devoted to Trump, another loyal Democrats, and the third group scattered all over the ideological map.


67 posted on 10/10/2023 11:15:04 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: wildcard_redneck; Widget Jr; ought-six; Williams

You refer to the return of Iranian owned money as a form ‘of ransome for captives which we “don’t” pay. Except by law we do have to return money owned by others when certain agreements and legal opinions require it. If nations could NOT trust they could by law get their money back, why would they ever put it in our banks or make agreements with us?


68 posted on 10/10/2023 11:22:34 AM PDT by gleeaikin ( Question authority!)
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To: gleeaikin

Yup, pretty much so.


69 posted on 10/10/2023 11:41:49 AM PDT by ought-six (Multiculturalism is national suicide, and political correctness is the cyanide capsule. )
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To: BroJoeK

Second, delta7, your Russian propaganda video is fake.
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Yeah right. Odyssey, Bitchute, T.ME, Slavyaguard, and many more must be all fabricating fake videos….words are cheap, video ( geo- located video) says more than words.

Believe what you want to.


70 posted on 10/10/2023 11:43:20 AM PDT by delta7
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To: BroJoeK

Trivialize it all you wish, but the Russian Evil Empire has overstepped the boundaries of acceptable behavior and now must be defeated to be stopped.

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By who? Senile Joe?…Not by a corrupted West, the Ukies are spent, welfare never lasts forever….Vlad holds all the cards and there is nothing the collective can do about it….except fight to the last Ukrainian- then what?


71 posted on 10/10/2023 11:49:11 AM PDT by delta7
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To: Widget Jr

Chill dude, I basically did a ‘reply all’ so stop pecking out your bitching. I do not care either about how I commented or about you at all. You cannot make me care no matter how much you whine. Go away neocon nerd.


72 posted on 10/10/2023 11:50:07 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: delta7

Delta7, do you realize that you live in the heart of an evil empire with over 750 bases overseas , 30 years of Forever War, and desire to enslave the world and impose globohomo tyrrany?


73 posted on 10/10/2023 11:51:54 AM PDT by wildcard_redneck (The Forever War is a crime against humanity)
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To: Reno89519; gleeaikin; UMCRevMom@aol.com
gleeaikin: "If you think Russia/Putin attack on Ukraine is of no importance to US, then you are seriously lacking in imagination.
Failure of us to support Ukraine will immediately signal to China they can move forward on Taiwan attack "

Reno89519: "You are full of BS.
Ukraine is not in our national security interest, never was, and likely won’t be.
Sucking up our money and resources to fight a proxy war with Russia, the Ukraine and Russia Civil War, is a waste."

It takes no imagination, only basic history to understand the first law of international relations: weakness provokes aggression from bad actors, and only strength can bring peace.

The natural historical condition of mankind is war and slavery of weaker people by brutal oppressors.
Peace, prosperity and justice only prevail when good people ally together to oppose aggressive brutal dictators.
Those are lessons taught at great cost in the 20th century.

Vlad the Invader, the CCP's Xi-snake, Little Kim and the Moola Mullahs are all brutal aggressive dictators, who will take whatever they can get whenever their neighbors show weakness -- military, economic, political and or social.

Today we look weak and divided, with lunatics for leaders and our enemies clearly see that now is the time to attack us at our weakest points, such as Ukraine, Israel or Taiwan.

Their aggressions will never end until we become strong again and force them to back down, or defeat them.

Those are lessons of all history and immutable laws of human nature -- when you act like an idiot, some evil power will kill you and take over whatever you have.

It's why we have Democrats in charge of our country today and brutal dictators on the march globally.

gleeaikin: "The Palestinian Hamas pogrom in the Middle East is our concern.
Americans are dying, being raped, and taken hostage at the hands of these barbarian Islamists.
It is my opinion that we should declare war on Hamas and kill every last one of them. "

For over 75 years Israelis have proven themselves capable of dealing with their enemies, so long as we help them militarily and don't hamstring them diplomatically.

gleeaikin: "As for Taiwan, the power of our commerce will hold China at bay, plus our nearby, Navy.
The only requirement we need is the willingness to cut off all commerce from China, that will quickly shut them down.
Make clear they risk that and they will not attack."

The CCP's Xi-snake is in power today largely on his promises to the Communist party to end Taiwan's independence, eventually.
At some point, Xi must put up or shut up and lose his position.
So his greatest task is to pick the exact moment when the US and our allies seem weakest and the CCP is most ready for war.
So long as he thinks we are too strong -- militarily, economically, politically & socially -- the Xi-snake will stay put.
But like any snake, his tongue can smell fear and disunion and chaos amongst his enemies.

Sadly, we are showing way to much of that these days.

74 posted on 10/10/2023 9:13:05 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: dforest; ought-six
deforest: "I think I can remember a certain guy named Zelensky clapping with great excitement and glee for a Nazi of the SS butcher squad at the Canadian Parliament.
I imagine that fella whacked a lot of Jews."

Naw, that's just fantasizing of your own warped imagination, or maybe Russian propaganda.
In fact, Ukraine's Pres. Zelenskyy, who is Jewish, had nothing to do with Canada's parliament honoring a 98 year old former Nazi.

Canada's leader Trudeau is another lunatic-lefty, and Zelenskyy is not to blame for the stupidity of Trudeau's government.

75 posted on 10/10/2023 9:29:26 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: gleeaikin; Widget Jr; UMCRevMom@aol.com
gleeaikin: "I wonder if any member(s) of the group of 8 have received money from China or Russia."

I don't know who your "group of 8" include, but if Mitch McConnel is one of them, then the answer is probably "yes", since my understanding is his family has great economic ties to China.

That alone should be reason enough to remove him from leadership, regardless of anything else.

76 posted on 10/10/2023 9:34:06 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: ought-six
ought-six: "Where did you get that data?
Most studies I’ve seen have the total colonial deaths at between 25,000 and 26,000, of which only about 8500 - 9500 were killed in battle; the rest died in camp (ca. 10,000, primarily from disease) or in captivity (ca. 8500, from deprivation and disease).
Of course, these are estimates, given the scarcity of detailed records.
Those studies also suggested that the civilian death numbers would probably have been in line with the civilian death numbers without the war."

I'm sure your numbers are correct, and the 70,000 is a maximum estimate which includes other kinds of deaths.
These are from Wikipedia:

    United States:

  1. 6,800 dead in battle
  2. 6,100 wounded
  3. 17,000 disease dead[33]

  4. 25,000 – 70,000 war dead[34]
  5. 130,000 smallpox dead[35]

    France:

  6. 2,112 dead – East Coast[36][s]

    Spain:

  7. 371 dead – W. Florida[38]
  8. 4,000 dead – prisoners[39]

    Native Americans: Unknown

You can see that estimates of US war deaths range from 25,000 to 70,000 with another 130,000 dead from small-pox -- no doubt aggravated by wartime conditions.

Brits, their allies and loyalists suffered circa 25,000 deaths in total.

To realize today's equivalent of these numbers, simply multiply by 100.
So, even 25,000 war deaths then equates to 2.5 million today, orders of magnitude more than we lost in WWII, for example.

ought-six: "Absolutely correct.
It’s disappointing that so many Americans think the colonials fought the British by themselves; we owe a great debt of gratitude to France for its assistance and support (of course, the “French connection” had less to do with any benevolence toward the colonials, and more to France’s desire to damage Britain)."

Maybe, but there were many Frenchmen at the time who admired Americans for our ideals and independence mindedness and who in term were admired by US Ambassadors like young Thomas Jefferson.

The bottom line is that the French king literally lost his head over support for Americans -- the money he spent to support us put his government in bankruptcy, leading to events that culminated in the French Revolution, terror and guillotines for many aristocrats.

So whatever his motives may have been, the French king paid the ultimate price for supporting us.
I think that counts for something.

77 posted on 10/10/2023 9:55:07 PM PDT by BroJoeK (future DDG 134 -- we remember)
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To: BroJoeK

Blah, blah, blah. Your propaganda is wasted effort. Why don’t you simply just catch the next flight to Ukraine and sign up. They need more canon fodder.


78 posted on 10/10/2023 10:10:27 PM PDT by Reno89519 (It's war. No one murders and takes Americans hostage. Time to act. Declare war on Hamas.)
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To: imabadboy99

Indeed. Why are the Robinson’s allowing this war mongering hag to keep doing this?


79 posted on 10/11/2023 12:00:09 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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To: Widget Jr

Our southern border is more important.

Not another round of blood letting by two thug regimes half a world away.


80 posted on 10/11/2023 12:02:42 AM PDT by jmacusa (Liberals. Too stupid to be idiots.)
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