Posted on 10/07/2023 1:26:03 AM PDT by Jonty30
Liberals are constantly saying that fascism is a right-wing belief system, because that's how the university education system allocated it.
We both know that's bs, because Mussolini and Gentile were quite clear that they were creating a socialist political system that has all the markings of left-wing socialism.
When somebody says that fascism is right-wing, they are not defining it as right-wing objectively, but subjectively. Relative to themselves because they are to the left of fascism, making them communists or that thin sliver that sits between communism and fascism.
However, it doesn't matter. What I realized is that they are on the side of big government, with all the other big government political systems of liberalism, socialism, communism, and fascism.
They are on the side of those that murdered 250 million people, enslaved over a billion, started the majority of major 20th century wars and aborted over 2 billion unborn children. Liberals are on that side.
That's what I realized.
What I have realized is that most humans are simply so stupid they can be made to believe anything.
I don’t disagree, but I enjoy framing arguements in ways that makes it impossible for the liberal to argue that there is good big government and bad big government, so we may as well have good big government.
The Communists has been hiding behind the Nazis (or fascism) for way too long. The path to each is a bit different, but in reality they end up being the same thing. Those who equate republicans and/or the far right with fascists are making use of this, while exposing who they really are.
Hayek addressed this well 80ish years ago.
Although our modern socialists’ promise of greater freedom is genuine and sincere, in recent years observer after observer has been impressed by the unforeseen consequences of socialism, the extraordinary similarity in many respects of the conditions under “communism” and “fascism.” As the writer Peter Drucker expressed it in 1939, “the complete collapse of the belief in the attainability of freedom and equality through Marxism has forced Russia to travel the same road toward a totalitarian society of un-freedom and inequality which Germany has been following. Not that communism and fascism are essentially the same. Fascism is the stage reached after communism has proved an illusion, and it has proved as much an illusion in Russia as in pre-Hitler Germany.”
No less significant is the intellectual outlook of the rank and file in the communist and fascist movements in Germany before 1933. The relative ease with which a young communist could be converted into a Nazi or vice versa was well known, best of all to the propagandists of the two parties. The communists and Nazis clashed more frequently with each other than with other parties simply because they competed for the same type of mind and reserved for each other the hatred of the heretic. Their practice showed how closely they are related. To both, the real enemy, the man with whom they had nothing in common, was the liberal of the old type. While to the Nazi the communist and to the communist the Nazi, and to both the socialist, are potential recruits made of the right timber, they both know that there can be no compromise between them and those who really believe in individual freedom.
— F.A. Hayek, The Road to Serfdom
Some people really want to stick their heads in the sand.......
There was an article in National Review in the 1980’s that compared Nazi and Soviet art, ideals, and propaganda. I forget the title and the writer. The similarities were amazing.
I did a quick online search and found these comparisons of Nazi and Soviet propaganda posters.
https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.rferl.org/amp/24934238.html
You might say that the 20th century was the century of socialist experiments to see which ones was most sustainable, with China winning.
I observe that the Soviet Communists associated anyone not on board with the Bolshevik mindset as bourgeois counter-revolutionaries, hence “right-wing”. This included the mere Socialists in the governments of eastern Europe, who were purged along with real Nazis during “de-Nazification” phase in 1946/47, so that outright Communist governments could be installed. Communist parties in France and Italy also used the “right-wing” epithet to apply to all their opponents. It seems to me that the American Communists did this also, spreading it through their infestation of Hollywood and the newspapers.
:: that thin sliver that sits between communism and fascism ::
Since there never was, and can not be, a functioning communism, that thin sliver is larger than you would think.
Research Democratic Centralism.
It is the ideal of the Bolshevik Party (Soviets).
It is Democratic Centralism that killed the 250 million.
What is currently termed “our Democracy” is Democratic Centralism.
And the progressive liberals of today are no less than Bolsheviks/Soviets.
Mussolini’s fascism was having the government cooperate with companies to control the populace - sound familiar?
Fascism, socialism, communism, actually make no diff. Those names are distractions.
The common goal of all systems is totalitarian power in the state.
Show me a liberal that isn’t lying, and I’ll show you one that’s in a coma.
That ties in nicely with the propagandists line in the Hayek quote I posted above.
Hayek provided the best treatment I’ve seen on fascism vs communism. Not only was his explanation clear and thorough, but based on his career and the time and places he lived, it’s hard to imagine anyone more credible on the topic.
It’s also true that the Left has made a deliberate effort to pin fascism on their opponents for many decades. See my tag line.
Mussolini turn to fascism when his socialism had failed.
Who is Gentile?
What may blow your mind even more are those two adornments on either side of the flag in the US HoR Chamber. They are fasces
That was my understanding of the difference - fascism was more oligarchical. A lot of industrialists made serious coin by siding with the Nazis. Whereas in communism it’s more the government apparatchiks will run the companies.
Demonstrated very nicely with fine research by Rudy Rummel -- "Death by government." Highly recommended.
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