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Trump Won’t Have a Jury in His NY Fraud Trial Because His Lawyers Didn’t Request One
Mediaite ^ | October 2, 2023 | Sarah Rumpf

Posted on 10/02/2023 10:27:25 AM PDT by Miami Rebel

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1 posted on 10/02/2023 10:27:25 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Miami Rebel

In New York, with New York juries, it is the right move by President Trump and his legal team, it will speed up the trial, and once James loses the case, allow President Trump to get back to campaigning.


2 posted on 10/02/2023 10:33:12 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Miami Rebel

Much easier to appeal a bench verdict. A jury would have convicted him anyhow.


3 posted on 10/02/2023 10:33:21 AM PDT by MTBobcat (The “rank-and-file” are as corrupted as their leadership.)
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To: Round Earther

You realize this same judge is the same person who valued Mar-a-Lago at 18 million

In a jury trial only one person needs to believe you, in this case the judge is already predisposed to ruling against Trump


4 posted on 10/02/2023 10:36:54 AM PDT by srmanuel
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To: Miami Rebel

Why have a jury of New Yorkers? It’s going to be fun watching those New Yorkers paying 3/4th of their paychecks to make up for the billionaires who will be flocking out of NYC as fast as they can.

I really wish Trump had moved his headquarters out of New York while he was still President .


5 posted on 10/02/2023 10:36:59 AM PDT by McGavin999 ( A sense of humor is a sign of intelligence, leftists have no sense of humor, therefore……)
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To: srmanuel

The judge is an absolute MORON..how can anyone with a straight face, even a Trump hater look at Mar A Lago and say “Yeah look at that mega mansion its only worth 18 mil” 18 mil wont get you a nice house in Hidden Hills, CA but it can apparently get you Mar A Lago which is a freakin fortress


7 posted on 10/02/2023 10:38:36 AM PDT by Sarah Barracuda
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To: srmanuel

Probably looking to appeal swiftly whatever crazy ruling the judge makes.


8 posted on 10/02/2023 10:38:54 AM PDT by Bayard
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To: Miami Rebel

so fired for incompetence then...


9 posted on 10/02/2023 10:39:36 AM PDT by Chode (there is no fall back position, there's no rally point, there is no LZ... we're on our own. #FJB)
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To: Bayard

Plus he figures being a “martyr” helps him in the polls.


10 posted on 10/02/2023 10:39:50 AM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: srmanuel
In a jury trial only one person needs to believe you ...

This is a civil case, not a criminal trial. I'm pretty sure there is no requirement for a unanimous ruling in a civil trial.

Waiving his right to a jury trial in New York City was almost certainly the right move.

11 posted on 10/02/2023 10:41:50 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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You take the case out of the hands of a New York jury and put into the hands a clearly compromised judge, and on that basis, get it overturned on appeal.

President Trump is smart and so are his $1600.00 an hour lawyers, they know what they are doing.


12 posted on 10/02/2023 10:42:15 AM PDT by Round Earther
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To: Miami Rebel

Judge, jury. Won’t matter. And since this isn’t “beyond a reasonable doubt” or unanimous, wouldn’t change anything.


13 posted on 10/02/2023 10:46:12 AM PDT by LS
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To: Miami Rebel; All

I think they did this because this politics. They will lose the case and there should be little doubt about that. Jury in New York or Rat Puke Judge. Losing to a “jury of your peers” makes it easier for leftist to make it look legitimate. Losing to A Rat Puke leftist judge who is a pure hack allows Trump to make the case that the judge is a hack. This is politics. The justice system has been destroyed.


14 posted on 10/02/2023 10:48:16 AM PDT by wiseprince (Me)
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To: MTBobcat

“Much easier to appeal a bench verdict.”

Untrue, I think.

There is no difference in the grounds for appealing either a jury or non-jury verdict. In either case an appeals court must find a flaw in the application of the law. Matters of fact-finding in the trial wouldn’t be reviewable.


15 posted on 10/02/2023 10:49:16 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: LS

“beyond a reasonable doubt”

It is a civil fraud trial, the standard is preponderous of evidence.

Interesting to me is how does one get charged when no one lost money?? Also, when one files estimates cited as same, the due diligence is on the lenders.


16 posted on 10/02/2023 10:50:08 AM PDT by Mouton (US Home to one party rule)
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To: Miami Rebel
In either case an appeals court must find a flaw in the application of the law.

The "Back to the Future" professor judge in this case has already opened that door with his ludicrous statement about the value of Mar-A-Lago.

17 posted on 10/02/2023 10:51:49 AM PDT by Alberta's Child (If something in government doesn’t make sense, you can be sure it makes dollars.)
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To: MTBobcat

This.


18 posted on 10/02/2023 10:53:12 AM PDT by vivenne (⁹)
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To: Round Earther

“You take the case out of the hands of a New York jury and put into the hands a clearly compromised judge, and on that basis, get it overturned on appeal.

“President Trump is smart and so are his $1600.00 an hour lawyers, they know what they are doing.”

President Trump has repeatedly hired terrible lawyers regardless of what they charge per hour. That’s a demonstrable fact.

An appeals court will only consider whether the law was applied, not the character of the judge.

If the judge were to apply the law inappropriately then his rulings would make the case reversible, regardless of the case being decided by judge or jury.


19 posted on 10/02/2023 10:53:17 AM PDT by Miami Rebel
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To: Mouton

And no victim or complaint.


20 posted on 10/02/2023 10:54:08 AM PDT by vivenne (⁹)
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