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The most bizarre whodunnit gripping Britain: Theories swirl over just why world famous Sycamore Gap tree was chopped down in the middle of the night...as boy, 16, is quizzed by police
Daily Mail UK ^ | September 28, 2023 | Mark Duell

Posted on 09/28/2023 10:55:44 PM PDT by Morgana

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This sucks eggs. It was a beautiful tree in a beautiful location.

All I can say is make the kid pay for a new tree and fertilize it yearly with Miracle Gro, for the rest of his life.

1 posted on 09/28/2023 10:55:44 PM PDT by Morgana
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To: Morgana

This is my Speculation Of The Day:
The tree cutter is probably a teenager who is either a recent immigrant or first generation citizen. This boy is probably Muslim in faith.

Why do I say that? Because it’s possible that at some point in time, the people from that locale were at odds with a group belonging to some form of the Muslim faith. They tend to never let go of a grudge, especially, if a conflict resulted in the Muslim side being defeated.
Perhaps this teen thinks he is avenging his own people, by destroying a beloved symbol of his enemy’s civilized world.

...OR
Maybe somebody said, “Hey, Mate, hold my pint, and you just watch this!...Get your cell phones at the ready.”


2 posted on 09/28/2023 11:17:49 PM PDT by lee martell
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Until they release information, we don’t know.
16 year old boys often don’t have an appreciation of history.

I hope they plant a new one, because the shoots won’t grow as majestic as the original tree.


3 posted on 09/28/2023 11:20:25 PM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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I know of a good fertilizer for the new tree...


4 posted on 09/28/2023 11:52:01 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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Whoever cut it down knew to notch it to control it's direction of fall and the back cut was pretty straight. I grew up in rural Mississippi, have a bunch of timberland, and have been running a chainsaw all my life. I couldn't have done a better job than that & that's not a small tree.

It's highly unlikely that was done by a 16 year old at night with somebody holding a flashlight. Most English kids have never seen a chainsaw, much less would they be able to fell a large tree like that. Dropping a good sized tree like that is not that easy to do correctly.

5 posted on 09/29/2023 12:00:33 AM PDT by GaryCrow
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Good details, and thanks for your post. The tree was also marked all around with white paint, at the cut line, as they do when planning a tree removal, and there is no reason for a teenage vandal to do that.

This event is a humdinger! Inexplicable.


6 posted on 09/29/2023 1:08:48 AM PDT by BlackVeil ('The past is never dead. It's not even past.' William Faulkner)
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So concerned about a tree, but ambivalent about child exploitation.


7 posted on 09/29/2023 2:00:40 AM PDT by Ragnar Danneskjöld
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”the park authority believes it was deliberately chopped down.”

I think it’s too early in the investigation to rule out an accidental chopping down.

8 posted on 09/29/2023 3:19:25 AM PDT by Flag_This (They're lying.)
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I hope they plant a new one, because the shoots won’t grow as majestic as the original tree.

Perhaps not, although one could select for a single stump sprout and, supported by a mature root system, it would grow faster than a new sapling.

On the other hand, it would be completely legitimate to coppice the tree. Let all the shoots grow back. It's what they would have done in Robin Hood's day.

9 posted on 09/29/2023 3:38:36 AM PDT by Oberon (John 12:5-6)
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Given that it was a pro job, it could be someone was hired to cut a tree down but either the contractor went to the wrong tree or was misdirected to it.

I didn’t notice it explicitly in the article, but since the Northumberland National Park Authority commented on this, I wonder if the are it’s in is in a park.

So I wouldn’t be surprised if a park employee gave someone the wrong directions to a tree to cut down. Since it’s a park, maybe they use a system where coordinates are provided and there was a typo or the location reading on the contractors cell phone was off or what not.


10 posted on 09/29/2023 4:18:23 AM PDT by fruser1
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You have to be tought history to appreciate it.


11 posted on 09/29/2023 4:18:45 AM PDT by maddog55 (The only thing systemic in America is the left's hatred of it!)
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“It has sparked claims that the tree was vandalised by a ‘professional’ and the park authority believes it was deliberately chopped down.”

No. Someone “accidentally” cut it down. Journalists are among the stupidest among us. It doesn’t take a professional to cut down a tree like that. Only an idiot with a chainsaw.


12 posted on 09/29/2023 4:20:52 AM PDT by Brooklyn Attitude (I went to bed on November 3rd 2020 and woke up in 1984.)
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I think it may be in a National Park. It sits right on Hadrian’s wall and many people hike along the entire wall that crosses England. We were to see this tree and the wall in August but covid stopped that plan while were in there.

I’m sick now that we missed that chance.

I don’t think a 16 y/o could hold a chainsaw that size, although, they could have helped who. ever did this. The white paint on the tree is puzzling though.


13 posted on 09/29/2023 5:07:36 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (Be not deceived, God is not mocked)
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That is true.


14 posted on 09/29/2023 5:09:07 AM PDT by Jonty30 (If liberals were truth tellers, they'd call themselves literals. )
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15 posted on 09/29/2023 5:09:07 AM PDT by Baldwin77 (Be not deceived, God is not mocked)
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To: fruser1
Given that it was a pro job, it could be someone was hired to cut a tree down but either the contractor went to the wrong tree or was misdirected to it.

The question that raises is why a contractor would do the job at night. I have dropped big trees at night when I was a firefighter for the USFS, and it is really dangerous and really scary. Whenever possible, we'd wait until daylight.

I don't think this was a 16-year-old's prank, though. Hope the real story comes out someday.

16 posted on 09/29/2023 5:22:30 AM PDT by HartleyMBaldwin
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My gut says it’s one of the “STOP OIL” terrorists.


17 posted on 09/29/2023 5:27:56 AM PDT by outofsalt (If history teaches us anything, it's that history rarely teaches anything.)
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‘No way could a 16-year-old wimpy kid do that on his own. I smell a rat.’

First thing I thought when I saw the perfectly cut tree lying on the ground. I’ve seen tree guys in action. They’ll mark the spot that the top of, say, a seventy foot pine will come to rest, and hit it exactly. There’s a lot that can go very wrong if you’re inexperienced.


18 posted on 09/29/2023 5:49:16 AM PDT by TalBlack (We have a Christian duty and a patriotic duty. God help us.)
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https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Tree_of_Ténéré

The Tree of Ténéré was a tree in Africa that was so isolated the nearest tree was almost 100 miles away. It was considered a landmark in the area.

Until a drunk driver hit it with a truck in 1973 and destroyed it.


19 posted on 09/29/2023 6:23:36 AM PDT by sloanrb
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I couldn’t have done a better job than that & that’s not a small tree

That was my thought upon seeing the photo, it was a pro that cut it, and not with a small chainsaw.


20 posted on 09/29/2023 6:28:23 AM PDT by Jolla
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