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To: srmanuel

“The other thing I believe is that not every election a MAGA candidate loses is rigged or stolen, some are just bad candidates and in some cases the MAGA movement is toxic and people want no part of it, New Hampshire appears to be one of those places. I also believe in order for the Republican Party to remain relevant there must be a truce between the MAGA wing and Establishment wing of the party, otherwise Republicans will continue to lose elections they should be winning.
That infuriates a lot of people on FR.”

A lot of people would rather double down on being wrong than admit that they may possibly be wrong.

The conservative echo chamber doesn’t help. Remember all of the talk about a “red tsunami” in 2022? It was a constant drum beat in the conservative media and social media. It completely discounted or ignored the impact of Roe being overturned was going have.

I think MAGA is not a majority. Trump will get more votes in red states than he got last time but that won’t help in PA and WI or MI.
Look at recent elections in those states. The GOP has been mostly shut out. But that gets ignored in favor of another poll showing Trump winning. The lessons of 2016 about how accurate polls are seems to have been forgotten now that we like what the polls show.


37 posted on 09/22/2023 12:03:33 PM PDT by snarkybob
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To: snarkybob

I get what you are saying, I catch a lot of grief here on FR for pointing out Georgia as an example of how things go very wrong.

The Republicans control every level of State Government in Georgia, except the two US Senate Seats.

Brian Kemp and Brad Raffensberger both are loathed in the MAGA world, both easily won reelection in 2022, they even soundly defeated Trump endorsed primary challenges.

The one Republican who didn’t win in that election was Herschel Walker, why is that, true MAGA supporters will tell you Kemp is crooked and stole the election from Walker.

I contend Walker was a terrible candidate and rift between MAGA and the Georgia establishment was enough for people to not vote for Walker even though they voted for Kemp and Raffensberger who were all on the same ballot.

Arizona is another example, Republicans win often in Arizona, in 2022 all 3 major Republican candidates lost.

The big flaw was urging their supporters to vote on election day creating a single point of failure in the election process when the machines in key Republican precincts didn’t work.

In Kari Lake’s case she told McCain supporters to “get the hell out” of her rallies. You don’t’ have to love John McCain to welcome his voters.

No Republican including Kari Lake is in a position to throw away potential votes.

Republicans can’t afford stupid unforced errors like that.


38 posted on 09/22/2023 12:25:55 PM PDT by srmanuel
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