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To: SheepWhisperer

Absolutely correct.

One has to remember a smart phone is really little more than a small computer with a range of radios and antennae.

If it’s an Android, just power it off, completely. At that point it is an inert brick, safe from all but advanced nation-state very near field communication hacks - like holding it against a task-specific RF exciter.

If you power off your android and place it in a REAL Faraday bag (and there are specs for this) not just an anti-staic bag, then it will NOT discharge the battery other than natural power loss over a LONG time.

If you just put your android into suspend, perhaps by depressing the power button on the side to lock it and black the screen, then one MUST first turn on airplane mode, AND turn off Bluetooth AND NFC (near field communications). Airplane mode on some phones only turns off Wi-Fi and cellular radios. NET: turn on airplane mode, then go into settings and turn off Bluetooth and NFC. Of just power it off - far simpler.

The same applies to an iOS device, but getting it truly powered off requires diligence.

The carriers CANNOT turn on a powered-off smart phone. Period. Neither can a Wi-Fi network admin. There is a capability analogous to “wake on ring” for networked PCs, but to PREVENT this, don’t put your phone into suspend (aka locked) - just turn the d@mn thing off and put it into your TRUE Faraday bag.


34 posted on 09/18/2023 6:39:40 AM PDT by Blueflag (Res ipsa loquitur: ad ferre non, velit esse sine defensione)
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To: Blueflag
Tks for all the good info!

Every time I leave the house, I actually double-bag my iphone/XR in two official Faraday Bags...a WisdomPro and a Mission Darkness unit. Nothin' gets through.

"just turn the d@mn thing off and put it into your TRUE Faraday bag."

Exactly, I clear background apps, push the off button, and into the bags. Viola!

37 posted on 09/18/2023 6:56:27 AM PDT by Scooter100
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To: Blueflag

I use MissionDarkness products and they test out fine against Bluetooth, Wi-Fi and cellular signals. All electronics in the bags are powered down. If I’m not using them, they’re in the bags. Laptop and tablet included.

Logic dictates that if you want to block it, turn it off so it isn’t trying to do what it was manufactured to do...connect.


39 posted on 09/18/2023 6:58:31 AM PDT by SheepWhisperer (Get involved with, or start a home fellowship group. It will be the final church. ACTS 2:42-47)
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To: Blueflag

To add to that, many communications devices also will lose their minds if not allowed to communicate for too long, and will require a reboot to reinitialize.


57 posted on 09/18/2023 12:56:00 PM PDT by lepton ("It is useless to attempt to reason a man out of a thing he was never reasoned into"--Jonathan Swift)
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