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To: srmanuel

You keep skipping the point, the point was about the militaries, America’s has been the dream of generals everywhere while on the battlefield, and the Russian military is seen as barely competent, after 19 months on the battlefield the world has learned that all the hype about the modern Russian military was fake.


84 posted on 09/18/2023 9:28:38 AM PDT by ansel12 ((NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.))
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To: ansel12
the world has learned that all the hype about the modern Russian military was fake.

And still NATO acts like it is afraid of the Russian juggernaut. We are told that we need to stop Russia in Ukraine or else the fearsome Russian steamroller will take over Lithuania, Latvia, Estonia, Poland and who knows where else. I don't think the West should be involved in any way until Putin actually attacks a NATO member. Which he won't.

85 posted on 09/18/2023 9:33:29 AM PDT by ClearCase_guy (They say "Our Democracy" but they mean Cosa Nostra.)
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To: ansel12

The Russian military might be incompetent, it’s a long way from being fake, 10s of thousands of Ukrainians would disagree with you if they could, but they are dead.

They have just about everything a modern military should have, army, navy, air force, etc., they are firing missiles from the sea and other places into Ukraine with really good accuracy.

They have thousands of pieces of artillery using counter batter radar, they have attack drones and helicopters, etc.

Despite training and billions in equipment from the West, the Ukrainian military has made no meaningful advances against that incompetent military.

That same incompetent military using mercenaries kicked Ukraine out of Bakhmut.

That’s all pretty modern, plus they seem to have the ability to manufacture it.

The same geniuses that said Russia was a military juggernaut are now saying the same military is incompetent and won’t stop with Ukraine.


86 posted on 09/18/2023 9:41:46 AM PDT by srmanuel
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