Posted on 09/18/2023 2:10:24 AM PDT by ganeemead
Neocon thinking might be that we need a new hundred years war...
I believe Biden is less bad than Obama, but I still can't understand why he is throttling like that. Is it perhaps the stupid young staffers?
How does it feel, Ivan, to have the second strongest army in Ukraine?
Yes, Ukraine is advancing slowly; that doesn’t mean you’re winning.
And, yes, you guys are really good at killing civilians.
We’ve given Ukraine over 100 billion, with no real accounting of where the money has gone, compare that to the $700 we’ve given the people of Maui who have lost everything, while a bunch of opportunists have swooped in trying to buy up the land.
We have people in East Palestine, Oh, who for the most part were left to fend for themselves, while toxic chemicals flooded the area and surrounding water, the true damage there won’t be known for years as the inevitable health problems start to happen.
That’s a losing situation in my opinion.
I could care less that Russia is caught in a quagmire, the USA has been in one quagmire after another over the years, Vietnam, Iraq, Afghanistan just to name 3.
We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins, that is a nightmare waiting to happen.
At the same time Mike Pence is talking about open war with Russia we have ex-military types saying if that happens, reinstating the draft would have to happen to keep the military sufficiently supplied with people because of all the casualties that would happen.
That scenario would be a huge major losing situation for the USA.
I could continue, but nothing good is going to happen in USA for the people of the USA.
“””We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins”””
No we don’t, why would make up things?
Its actually 70 billion with 42 billion of that being weapons.
We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins, that is a nightmare waiting to happen
Which is why we should send sufficient weapons to Ukraine, so that the war ends there, with a russian withdrawal.
We have people in East Palestine, Oh
Right in a 6.3 trillion dollar budget last year we didn't spend enough because 70 billion was spent on Ukraine. Seriously?
Defense Officials: U.S. Ensures Accountability of Systems Supplied to Ukraine
The U.S. has provided the Ukrainians with ways to track the military systems it provides, he said. Tracking includes scanners and software, as well as remote visits to sites when conditions permit.
"We don't see any evidence of diversion in our reporting," Kahl said. "We think the Ukrainians are using properly what they've been given," he said.
Defense Department Inspector General Robert P. Storch testified that within the past year, the DOD Office of Inspector General completed five Ukraine-related oversight projects.
https://www.defense.gov/News/News-Stories/Article/Article/3313904/defense-officials-us-ensures-accountability-of-systems-supplied-to-ukraine/
Do a little research before you post next time.
https://www.newsweek.com/mike-pence-warns-american-troops-may-have-fight-russia-1811126
Neocon........ you got to say neocon
If the leftists start a military draft they will be forced to attempt to draft all thr illegal alien dreamers of military age and they will stampede south to the boarder. If you think deplorable white boys are going to go off and fight while the illega aliens stay behind to diddle thier girlfriends you have another thing coming.
Do it yourself and you won’t lie so often.
Pence didn’t say what you claimed, he merely said what NATO is about, fighting Russia if they invade a NATO country.
“I have no doubt that if Vladimir Putin overran Ukraine, it would not be too long, Hugh, before the Russian military crossed a border where we would have to send our fighting men and women to fight against them.”
The fact you would make the statement the US Military has provided Ukraine with any type of accounting system is laughable.
Recently the Defense Department announced they found over 6 billion more for Ukraine based on an accounting error.
Here’s a recent post from a US Senator indicating we’ve given 113 billion in US Aid to Ukraine.
Whether it’s 133 billion or your figure of 70 billions is meaningless to me, $1 is too much for me.
Like I said, I could care less about Russia or Ukraine, because I consider any involvement by the USA as a losing situation.
I stand by the post, do a little research before throwing out insults, which is a sure sign of lack of knowledge.
I stand by the post, do a little research before throwing out insults, which is a sure sign of lack of knowledge.
You stand by your post?
Show us the quote then.
What an interesting question. It is probably apt for the pro-Z and pro-P types, but the "not my circus and not my clown" contingent sees a completely different context to the whole mess. One which your "tar baby" question simply does not lure in.
US Debt ClockYour kids and mine are deep in debt, and it's growing rapidly, all the while two non-NATO thugs are duking it out, and we are seeing our kids fall ever deeper in debt ( $254K per taxpayer, in case you won't look to the debt clock ). Yea, you!
What part of IF RUSSIA WINS do you not understand, IF Russia crosses the border into another country, the means in all likelihood they would have soundly defeated Ukraine.
I know it must be difficult but please keep up.
Pence didn’t say what was claimed by srmanuel, he merely said what NATO is about, fighting Russia if they invade a NATO country.
From your link—“I’m convinced that if the Ukrainian military doesn’t stop and repel that Russian invasion, it’s not going to be too long before that Russian army crosses a border that our men and women in uniform are going to have to go and fight under our NATO Treaty,” Pence said.
“I truly believe it. Whether that’s Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania… Poland, I don’t know.”
Keeping up can be so difficult.Mike Pence warns American troops may have to fight Russia
I was going to point him to another thread on FR from a few days ago.
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4182802/posts
I’m not a subscriber of Epoch Times but the thread starts out with an article saying US Troops may be needed in Ukraine, it quotes Mike Pence in the article.
We all know the classic definition of insanity, evidently the warmongers in Washington and the MSM are insane because they keep repeating the same actions over and over hoping for a different outcome, they always seem to get a sizeable number of Americans to buy into the insanity each time.
I hope post 37 cleared it up for you about Pence not saying
“””We have a former VP of the USA openly talking about US Ground Troops having to fight in Ukraine if Russia wins”””
but instead was simply saying that we would have to fight if Russia invaded our NATO countries.
“I truly believe it. Whether that’s Estonia, Latvia, Lithuania… Poland, I don’t know.”
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