Posted on 09/12/2023 7:26:12 PM PDT by UMCRevMom@aol.com
Update from Ukraine | Ruzzia loses planes | Ukraine expands from Klishchivka
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=KrN1-14nfgU
The summary of the situation of Russian re-invasion to Ukraine covering the recent developments on the battlefield, as of 6th September 2023 – 22:00 (Kyiv time). [two summaries per week, released on Wednesday and Sunday]
https://militaryland.net/news/invasion-day-560-summary/
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You have repeating Ukraine threads because there are people interested in posting them. Its a hobby or avocation. There are repeating threads on other subjects, from Civil War history to Archaeology. There was (or hay still be) a “Q” thread.
FR, in the grand scheme of things, is a tiny site with no influence on anything. It is very much under the radar in internet traffic.
If you are a paid Russian troll, tell your boss this place isnt worth it.
In your case, QED.
“Its ‘my’ money too, you know. Most of my income and assets derive from the US, and me and the IRS have an intimate relationship.” 
“Not to mention my kids who are Americans (their mom qualifies for the DAR).” [So do I, on my mother’s side. So what? You’re still a foreigner who demands that American dollars go to a money-laundering meat grinder.]
”In any case, your statement is just another ad hominem.”
Still ad hominem.
And rather absurd with that “foreigner” crap. I think you would have thrown Enrico Fermi out of the country. There are all kinds of course, but this level of fanaticism is just weird.
”Still ad hominem. And rather absurd with that ‘foreigner’ crap. I think you would have thrown Enrico Fermi out of the country. There are all kinds of course, but this level of fanaticism is just weird.” Eventually, maybe you’ll figure out that I don’t take your insults and leftist drivel seriously. Maybe. Y’all are pretty much a dime a dozen on here. 😏
Ugh. So many of you pompous, condescending Youkazoids love accusing those who oppose your globalist bullshit of being uneducated. Ugh.
Again, I ask you why you, and all the other Youkazoids who comment on these threads, are so madly in love with the most corrupt nnation in Europe and are willing to jump through hoops and barrels to try defending it and the globalist/leftist/scumocrat/RINO pigs who are so intent on shoveling US taxpayers into that sinkhole? Please answer my question, Mr. Pompous Ass.
The best answer to your question is:
In order to maintain global order. To prevent international aggression and keep the peace.
OK!
Peace comes from opposing international aggression.
Show potential aggressors that their crimes will not be rewarded.
This has been the international consensus since the days of the League of Nations (betrayed by cowardice), was the original justification of the UN (see Korea), was the basis of US foreign policy since 1941, was the reason for NATO ... need I go on?
If you dont like it, then go ahead. You too are part of an old tradition you know, not limited to the US by any means.
Our leaders going back a century understood this, the keeping of the peace, as their first duty.
I recommend a decent background on the argument.
“The Cold War: A New History” John Lewis Gaddis
And - from 1950, laid out explicitly, with evaluated options (which is rare for these things)
https://irp.fas.org/offdocs/nsc-hst/nsc-68.htm
How exercised are you by the (government mandated, incredibly corrupt) vast inefficiency in US medical care?
I realize that this is a day-old comment, and my question is unrelated to the thread topic, but your comment is a puzzlement. The US medical system is a vast beast, with enormous variety over market sectors and regions, so it's hard to understand what you could mean as a general critique of its "efficiency". Which itself begs the question of how one would define "efficiency", how it would be measured, and how a basis of comparison to another nation's "system" could be established.
And what all of that has to do with a hundred billion dollars in US taxpayer largess being directed to what is possibly the most corrupt regime in Europe (as the US elite skim their vig. off of the top), which is the subject of most of this thread's ire.
Would you be willing to cast any light on these questions? Would be most appreciated.
Yeah, I just read that too. Good point. Make the logistics more and more difficult.
I understand Crimea already has a considerable shortage of fresh water for irrigation, too. Harassment from every angle possible...
In all countries, the US included, health care spending is almost entirely government provided or government mandated.
In addition, it is highly regulated, explicitly or implicitly; in the US much of this is implicit, through judicial precedent and legal risk. But that is the typical case with US regulation of anything.
In financing health care, the US is typical of the G7 or G20 countries, no matter the war over “single payer”. The US is not that structurally different from, say, France, which likewise is heavily into mandates.
However, the total effect of regulation, legal hazards, institutional policy, etc., has created a profoundly different cost structure in the US vs the rest of the world.
Constant dollars, PPP-
https://www.healthsystemtracker.org/chart-collection/health-spending-u-s-compare-countries/#GDP%20per%20capita%20and%20health%20consumption%20spending%20per%20capita,%202021%20(U.S.%20dollars,%20PPP%20adjusted)
Comparing outcomes (lifespan if you like, even disaggregated by race or age or class), the US is horribly inefficient.
There are studies by medical categories and procedures that go far into explaining that everything costs much more in the US. This is NOT about US consumers opting for more services, etc., but that comparable services are more costly.
Note: one has to use macroeconomic national accounts for this, as many countries, using mandates, finance much of this with “hidden taxes”. But that is taxation nonetheless; this was thrashed out from the 80’s on.
Using US % GDP vs Germany (which has an older population), the US spends 18.3% of GDP on health care vs 12.8% in Germany. It is clear that the US spends an excess (wastes) at least 5.5% of GDP on health care. The entire US defense budget is @ 3.5% of GDP.
Or to put it another way, the US could have the Canadian “single payer” system just with what it collects on Medicare, leaving out all other funding or mandates, or it could have 2X the British or Spanish single payer systems (the Spanish system, unlike the British one, is excellent). In any case, what the US is doing is absurd.
5.5% of GDP is $1.4 Trillion, or 1400 billion. We can go into other spending categories if you like. The problem with US finances is deep, systematic corruption in every category. The US is vastly corrupt.
As for our health care system, I don't need to compare to other countries, etc. I only need to have been watching ours for going on 50 years now, as gov't involvement & gov't collusion with big health increases. (This is NOT a swipe at individual providers, most doctors, nurses, EMS personnel, etc.)
BTW, please note:
and for reference:
https://www.ifw-kiel.de/topics/war-against-ukraine/ukraine-support-tracker/
Repetition? Ok, why don’t you complain about the zillionth times the same stupid memes and cartoons are posted by the Putin tools, that eat up FR bandwidth?
At least “Mom” (I think that’s who y’all are primarily complaining about) posts almost all new articles and vids from varying pro-ukie sources, each day. Obviously there is overlap between those sources, but you are free to skip said overlap, and, as text, it eats up minimal FR bandwidth. For that matter, those who don’t like “Mom’s” posts don’t have to read them in the 1st place. Myself, I simple don’t have time to more than skim them most times; occasionally hitting something of interest. Somewhat the same goes for the more obvious Pooty tools - if I see something ridiculous in the first few lines, I skip it, and certain posters who’ve wasted too much of my time in the past (”we’ve destroyed 3x the number of HIMARS even sent to Ukraine!”) I pass on as well.
“4”?
No, I think we also have a number of people who go foolishly overboard in the isolationist direction. (I prefer the fictional Edith Keeler, at least she was depicted as a sweet person.)
Add to those the people who appear to have literally gone off their rockers with Biden taking office, and somehow think this country is the new evil. I hearken back to 1964, when many a good conservative, like my Grandma, nearly had a nervous breakdown when Johnson was announced to have won. The US survived Johnson, and Vietnam, and Nixon / Watergate and Carter, and just 20 years later was beginning a great resurgence...
We also have a great many who hate Biden so much that they think ANYTHING he or his administration says or does, or anything that even comports with “The West” is wrong.
Well, heck, as regards Biden, it IS hard to find much to like, even regarding Ukraine, as Biden’s weak stream of popgun weapons (only slightly modified by allowing countries with a few F-16’s to donate a dribble of planes) gives the Russian leadership false hope of an acceptable outcome and will result in many more casualties in the end.
I’d also prefer the US concentrate on weapons and humanitarian aid, and tell the Euro’s to handle the financial side.
So, I guess I can’t find much to support Biden on, either.
Er... Well, I suppose until recently, Biden had not messed up too many medal ceremonies...?
No disrespect to your post, by mine, BTW! I simply look at what’s happened with time inside the US — but your comparison data is good confirmation. If apalling... :-(
Since you made the assertion, please provide a Freeper name and thread which is pro-Putin. Thanks in advance.
for one:
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-chat/4181296/posts?page=130#130
How many times has that irrelevant image been posted? I’m sure as heck not going to waste several days trying to track all the instances down... Deny it, and you are simply a dishonest person I shall not give ANY weight further.
BTW, that poster is not just “pro-Putin” either — there you have a racist, bigot poster, whose posts are getting worse. I’m sure not going to re-link to them to give him(?) more exposure. I mean, sure, I post about “Pooty” and “Ukies”, but that dude(?)’s vomit is several orders of magnitude worse.
Are there racist anti-Russian posters too? Yes. I don’t condone those posts either, if they are directed against all Russians. One of my best friend’s (through later college and several years beyond) parents were Russian. Nice people.
Matter of fact, I really should try to see if he’s still around — he’s a bit older than I.
One man's "irrelevant" is another man's "relevant." But the graphic, to which you linked, is merely a re-work from some videos.
Since you didn't want to "waste several days" tracking back instances, here are the videos, one of which is the source for the "irrelevant image."
There is no issue of denying or not. What is, simply is.
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