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In U.S., most UFO documentation is classified. Not so in other countries.
WaPo ^ | Terrence McCoy

Posted on 09/07/2023 4:30:36 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

Brazil and the United States are two countries of continental proportions, frequent UFO sightings and active communities of extraterrestrial enthusiasts. But how each has responded to the most fundamental of human questions — are we alone? — has been sharply different. In the United States, the matter of unidentified aerial phenomena has often been treated as a closely guarded government secret. Meanwhile, in Brazil and much of South America, there has been a more relaxed attitude toward the inexplicable, the public’s right to know and the limits of scientific explanation.

Now, as legislators in Washington push for the same transparency that other parts of the world have enjoyed for years, the cultural and nationalistic differences between how countries interpret the skies and what is divulged have grown even more apparent.

In South America, at least four countries — Uruguay, Argentina, Chile and Peru — have public government programs that study and investigate UFO activity. Argentina and Chile regularly release reports on identifying aerial objects. And in Uruguay, which has passed UFO details along to the United States since the 1970s, the military runs the Commission for the Reception and Investigation of Complaints of Unidentified Flying Objects.

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Whether a country shares that contention, researchers say, often comes down to military interests. The United States, for example, has often been less willing to publicize or publicly engage on questions about UFOs — even going so far to spread misinformation in the 1950s — for fear of ceding a strategic advantage to adversaries and jeopardizing national security.

“The U.S. has always tended toward secrecy,” said Chris Impey, an astronomer at the University of Arizona. “Only in the last year or so has there been a push for transparency, but the backdrop of that was flat-out denial or secrecy.”

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TOPICS: UFO's
KEYWORDS: notaliens; psyop
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To: Sir Bangaz Cracka

“After many billions of years, on planets trillions and trillions of miles separated, how useful that these so-called aliens have only within the last few years made themselves known here on earth. Why this narrow scope of time, when contrasted with billions of years of time? Why this occurrence, now? Why not before?

And, since these clever creatures are so much more intelligent than mere earthlings, why have they allowed us to “accidentally” be aware of their presence? If they are so smart, surely they could have evaded all awareness. On the other hand, if they intended us to know of them, why not just speak up? Surely they couldn’t be scared of us lower forms of life.”

They have, since the beginning of man. History is chocked full of oral and written accounts. Nothing “new” at all...

Even these ancient artworks are “more recent”:

https://duckduckgo.com/?t=lm&q=UFOs+in+ancient+art&iax=images&ia=images


41 posted on 09/07/2023 9:02:09 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: RoosterRedux

The simplest explanation would be that the US government is treating its secret experimental aircraft programs as...secret. The other countries don’t have such programs and thus no reason to be secrtive.


42 posted on 09/07/2023 9:09:51 AM PDT by Chewbarkah
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To: PIF

Everything that we have discovered leads me to believe that the speed of light is an absolute limit for both information and an asymptotic limit to the speed of material things. That being said the interaction between quantum linked particles has been measured to be at least 10k times faster than light, but its useless as a way of communicating because you can’t control the direction of the collapse. Take quantum linked particles and collapse the wave on one by measuring it and say you get a down spin. The other member of the pair will have an up spin. But the direction of spin generated by looking at the particle is always random. So if you are attempting to communicate via quantum linked particles what you get is just a random binary string.

I don’t know what the future holds (otherwise I would be a lot richer), but saying that UFOs might be aliens that know different physics than our understanding is like saying here a miracle occurs


43 posted on 09/07/2023 11:28:41 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: SaveFerris

Thanx


44 posted on 09/07/2023 11:29:07 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

... saying that UFOs might be aliens that know different physics than our understanding is like saying here a miracle occurs

Any sufficiently advanced technology is indistinguishable from magic - A Clarke

You comment seems to indicate that we now know everything there is to know about physics and quantum theory, sort of like science in the 1950s claimed they knew everything, and it was just a matter of filling in the details.

We do not know what we do not know.

“Confucius said, “To know that we know what we know, and that we do not know what we do not know, that is true knowledge” - Henry David Thoreau, Walden


45 posted on 09/07/2023 11:43:57 AM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF
I stand by what I say about here a miracle occurs. You have to postulate some entirely new physics for FTL travel/communication. there might be, but if there is we have nothing that points to its existence. There is some YouTube stuff that gets into FTL anything being equivalent to time travel and a violation of causality, but I was too bored by it to finish watching.
46 posted on 09/07/2023 11:57:39 AM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: from occupied ga

Those videos without the math to follow up on, it’s hand waving. Global warmies give more substance in their arguments.


47 posted on 09/07/2023 12:03:52 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: from occupied ga

Read James Maxwell Clerk (1831-1879) in the original version, and you will learn that of his 200 field equations, only 4 were converted to vector equations which gave us everything we know about the classical theory of electromagnetic radiation, which was the first theory to describe electricity, magnetism and light as different manifestations of the same phenomenon.

What does the other 194 field equations postulate? Limitless energy, moving from any one point to any other point in the universe just by stepping across a point, among many others.

So don’t say we know everything, and that physics is can never make something happen which seems now to be a miracle, as electricity and a light bulb would be would be to someone living in the 18th century.


48 posted on 09/07/2023 2:32:50 PM PDT by PIF (They came for me and mine ... now its your turn)
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To: PIF

you keep coming back to the same things over again. “we don’t know what we don’t know” Of course we don’t but unless there is some experimental or theoretical indications that there is an entirely different physical model that allows FTL movement, which to the best of my knowledge does not exist. I’ll go with here a miracle happens as your thesis and I don’t think it’s possible is mine.


49 posted on 09/07/2023 3:39:10 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: Reily

better you should suffer through them rather than me.


50 posted on 09/07/2023 3:40:44 PM PDT by from occupied ga (Your government is your most dangerous enemy - EVs a solution for which there is no problem)
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To: PIF

Can you point me to a paper where that is demonstrated?


51 posted on 09/07/2023 3:49:33 PM PDT by Reily (!!)
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To: PIF
Limitless energy, moving from any one point to any other point in the universe

There's math that's theoretical, and math that models reality.

52 posted on 09/07/2023 3:52:14 PM PDT by Tellurian (To the Dems, the middle class is a festering wound. They want it amputated.)
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To: RoosterRedux

Pentagon: Most common UFO looks like a translucent silver ball
JAKE CARTER09/11/2023LATEST NEWS
https://anomalien.com/pentagon-most-common-ufo-looks-like-a-translucent-silver-ball/


53 posted on 09/11/2023 7:39:42 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=LN22jK34usA


54 posted on 09/11/2023 7:49:28 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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