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To: Telepathic Intruder; patriot torch
I have never dabbled in magic or the occult. They are things to stay away from. But I can use the term colloquially.

Ok. Understood.

I've read Revelation several times and see no need for a rapture.

Why then isn't the church mentioned on earth between the time John sees his vision(s) of the tribulation in Rev 4 until Christ returns in Rev 19? The word church does appear in the book about 19 times depending on translation but never during the actual tribulation events described in Rev 4 - Rev 19.

16 posted on 09/03/2023 7:55:20 AM PDT by fso301
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To: fso301

Good question.
Why indeed?

Where is the Church during that entire time?
And why does John refer to “Earth Dwellers” 11 times in Revelation?

Normalcy bias just doesn’t allow your average peasant to understand Revelation. It is the only book people actually are given a blessing for reading. Very few even try as you can see here.


66 posted on 09/03/2023 12:32:48 PM PDT by Roman_War_Criminal (Jesus + Something = Nothing ; Jesus + Nothing = Everything )
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