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Cardboard Drones Destroy Russian Jets in Ukraine
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Posted on 08/31/2023 8:07:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT

Cardboard Drones were effectively used to destroy Russian jets in Ukraine. Cardboard drones are a cost effective solution (a few thousand dollars including military grade-guidance systems and explosions) to destroy Russian aviation ($10+ Million dollar planes). They are also difficult to detect by radar.

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Flatpak drones, get them cheap by the pallet load.
1 posted on 08/31/2023 8:07:44 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

If this is true, wouldn’t that work against us?


2 posted on 08/31/2023 8:11:18 PM PDT by laxcoach (The secret to happiness is a bait pen full of pinfish.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT; Kazan

I think the current issue is where the drones that attacked Pskov came from.


3 posted on 08/31/2023 8:12:16 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

they are not a few thousand dollars, but making lots of super cheap autonomous drones is something darpa has been working on for long time. I have seen a bunch of articles in the past few days discussing this.
that is not a coincidence


4 posted on 08/31/2023 8:13:37 PM PDT by algore
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To: laxcoach
If this is true, wouldn’t that work against us?

Our crossdressers in the BananAmerica military aren't getting any real world experience in this type of warfare.

Well, except for the American "advisors" on the ground in The Ukraine.

5 posted on 08/31/2023 8:14:02 PM PDT by kiryandil (China Joe and Paycheck Hunter - the Chink in America's defenses)
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To: laxcoach

“If this is true, wouldn’t that work against us?”

Possibly. I would suspect our military has adapted to this. Lots of lessons were learned after the USS Cole.


6 posted on 08/31/2023 8:16:07 PM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: laxcoach

—”If this is true, wouldn’t that work against us?”

Russia has purchased about 2,000 Shahed drones from Iran and has built a factory inside Russia to build them locally.

Considerably larger and more easily detected, apparently.


7 posted on 08/31/2023 8:21:45 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: laxcoach

Yes it would. Here is an undetected Iranian drone flying above a US carrier in the Persian Gulf. They didn’t know about it until the Iranians published the photos.

https://www.foxnews.com/us/iran-claims-it-flew-drone-over-us-aircraft-carrier-snapped-photos


8 posted on 08/31/2023 8:21:54 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: algore

—”I have seen a bunch of articles in the past few days discussing this.
that is not a coincidence”

4/8/2023, 4:30:27 PM by FarCenter
https://freerepublic.com/focus/f-news/4144274/posts

“Once is happenstance. Twice is coincidence. Three times is enemy action”.


9 posted on 08/31/2023 8:25:29 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: kiryandil

Gussing deep inside Russia.


10 posted on 08/31/2023 8:26:56 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT ( "The enemy has overrun us. We are blowing up everything. Vive la France!"Dien Bien Phu last message)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

No doubt a farm of CIA pilots in Nevada is flying these things.


11 posted on 08/31/2023 8:27:05 PM PDT by FlyingEagle
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To: laxcoach

Yes it would.


12 posted on 08/31/2023 8:31:36 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: Reverend Wright

How do you know it was undetected?


13 posted on 08/31/2023 8:33:24 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

One might wonder why you cannot easily buy a pi even though the supply chain issues have been resolved.

https://rpilocator.com/


14 posted on 08/31/2023 8:38:45 PM PDT by algore
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To: MeganC

Nope all the jets and ships are lined up in a row like sitting ducks... Military is stupid..they haven’t learned anything ..o it will be a Drone Harbor


15 posted on 08/31/2023 8:38:51 PM PDT by bunkerhill7 (Don't shoot until you see the whites of their lies)
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To: FlyingEagle

Most of these aren’t “flown”. I expect they have a GPS guidance package with target coordinates entered prior to launch. If satellite recon passes often enough the target coordinates for aircraft on an airfield could easily be updated in time to catch it with a drone, if it sits still for 24 hours or so. Lag time would be many hours, given flight times to a range of 1000km.

They may also have some version of a Starlink receiver. The Naval drones do. Those would be “flown”, probably, though I don’t know how well that would work to perform fine control for an aircraft. The naval drone videos seem laggy.


16 posted on 08/31/2023 8:44:37 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: bunkerhill7

That would be the case, if a significant sabotage organization could be inserted into the US.

European airfields however tend to have concrete aircraft shelters.


17 posted on 08/31/2023 8:47:07 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The cardboard structure reduces the cost of a plastic/fiber fuselage and wings, but that’s not a major part of the cost of a drone, if it is mass-produced.

The cost of the guidance system, power pack, battery and warhead are more significant.


18 posted on 08/31/2023 8:56:55 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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There was an article about the Australians producing and sending them to the Ukraine. I think the cost was about $5K per drone.


19 posted on 08/31/2023 9:14:43 PM PDT by fini
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To: MeganC
Possibly. I would suspect our military has adapted to this. Lots of lessons were learned after the USS Cole.

US didn't have an answer when Yemeni drones came for the Saudi refineries.

20 posted on 08/31/2023 9:18:13 PM PDT by Gunslingr3
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