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What’s Up with America’s Multi-billion Dollar Air Defense Systems? (Why are Chinese balloons, UFOs/UAPs, drones, and other stuff flying in our restricted airspace with impunity?)
christophermellon.net ^ | Chris Mellon, former Deputy Assistant Secretary of Defense for Intelligence

Posted on 08/28/2023 2:21:22 PM PDT by RoosterRedux

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1 posted on 08/28/2023 2:21:22 PM PDT by RoosterRedux
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2 posted on 08/28/2023 2:22:00 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Because our government and miltary let them.

Simple as that.


3 posted on 08/28/2023 2:22:55 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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4 posted on 08/28/2023 2:23:56 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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PAPER TIGER….


5 posted on 08/28/2023 2:26:35 PM PDT by ncfool (America has died we are living in the united socialist states of aMeriKa)
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To: RoosterRedux

China Joe was paid to let them.


6 posted on 08/28/2023 2:26:51 PM PDT by wbslws
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To: rlmorel

What really matters in the military these days is that trans soldiers can get their operations done in a timely manner anywhere around the globe.

Notice how they define “readiness” these days:

https://www.esd.whs.mil/Portals/54/Documents/DD/issuances/dodi/130028p.pdf


7 posted on 08/28/2023 2:27:11 PM PDT by cgbg ("Creative minds have always been known to survive any kind of bad training." Anna Freud.)
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To: rlmorel

Or can’t stop them.


8 posted on 08/28/2023 2:27:18 PM PDT by FrankRizzo890
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It may be a matter of priorities. Drones were buzzing our nuclear aircraft carriers but the crew was busy attending an official performance of the Navy's Drag Queen "Harpy Daniels"...

Sailor by day, performer by night — meet the Navy’s drag queen, ‘Harpy Daniels’

9 posted on 08/28/2023 2:31:24 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Defending the country’s border and political system that recognizes natural rights to freedom, faith, expression is not a priority with these communists.

Much lower than real terrors like climate freakout, voterid, chromosomes, and of course -Trump!


10 posted on 08/28/2023 2:35:10 PM PDT by epluribus_2
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I wouldn't think so, but I admit I could be wrong. Those "ballons" are likely not stealthy, but I could be wrong there too. In 1978, we had radar that could spot a BB miles away, according to the book by the head of the Lockheed Skunk Works that built the F-117.

The guy who was calibrating the radar to do the testing brought his calibration gear in a briefcase, and it was a small box with various sizes of ball bearing in it used to calibrate the radar response.

But, as I readily admit, I suppose an object carried under a balloon that was non-radar reflecting, that was itself inside some kind of non-radar reflecting material, might escape detection. But that doesn't ring true to me.

11 posted on 08/28/2023 2:35:42 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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Worth repeating from the article (extra paragraph breaks added by RR):
I managed to confirm a prominent example of a UAP incident that led NORAD to scramble F-15 fighter aircraft that was not reported to AARO or Congress. This case involved a high-flying fast vehicle that overflew a large area of the Western U.S in 2018. The craft was detected by FAA radars and its location was independently confirmed by commercial airline pilots. F-15s failed to get close to the object which, as far as we know, remains unidentified.

Yet, when I contacted AARO, the organization confirmed that this extraordinary case, which only came to light by chance, had not been reported to it by the Air Force. How many more cases like this have not been reported?

In light of that case and the Chinese balloon mishap, and the hundreds of ongoing unexplained UAP reports, I suggest Congress balance its focus on UAP with a hard look at the performance and effectiveness of the air and space surveillance systems that we rely on to protect the nation from surprise attacks like Pearl Harbor or September 11th.

The massive air and space surveillance systems funded by the taxpayer at huge expense include the most powerful radar emitters on the planet. They closely monitor vast regions of air and space 24 hours per day 365 days per year. It is technically inconceivable that these systems do not detect anomalies from time to time. They should certainly be seeing UAP independently of fighter aircraft, yet aside from the Chinese balloon and the 3 other objects shot down in the following days, I don’t know of any reports of that kind going to AARO or Congress.


12 posted on 08/28/2023 2:35:46 PM PDT by RoosterRedux (A person who seeks the truth with a strong bias will never find it. He will only confirm his bias.)
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Makes me grit my teeth.


13 posted on 08/28/2023 2:36:26 PM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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If the Biden Government didn’t allow spy overflights, how could the Chinese, Russians, etc, verify the accuracy of military secrets the Bidens are selling them?


14 posted on 08/28/2023 2:38:33 PM PDT by jjotto ( Blessed are You LORD, who crushes enemies and subdues the wicked.)
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In China, the government spent $$ hundreds of billions per year on infrastructure, only to have found much of it was sub-standard, due to graft at all levels in the procurement process. The Chinese call it “tofu projects” - looks like cement, but is as fragile as tofu

Perhaps Americans similarly will discover that the $850 billion per year they spend on “defense” is a major source of political and deep-state graft, wasted on useless or substandard systems.

I’m in no position to judge on such highly technical, confidential, insider issues - but who would be? And how would we ever know?


15 posted on 08/28/2023 2:43:58 PM PDT by PGR88
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There wasn’t any money left after everyone took their cut.


16 posted on 08/28/2023 2:45:40 PM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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Why? Because the big guy got his cut.


17 posted on 08/28/2023 2:52:12 PM PDT by Organic Panic (Democrats. Memories as short as Joe Biden's eyes)
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1. UFOs — they outrun the jet fighters

2. Chinese balloons — the Chinese will not let Biden shoot them down

3. Drones — the Chinese will not let Biden shoot them down


18 posted on 08/28/2023 4:14:31 PM PDT by odawg
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The radar operators were too busy butt humping to notice


19 posted on 08/28/2023 4:55:11 PM PDT by NWFree (Sigma male 🤪)
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This is what a hyper-corrupt third-world military looks like.


20 posted on 08/28/2023 5:02:06 PM PDT by Antoninus (Republicans are all honorable men.)
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