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Vixen's Janet Gardner on being objectified by '80s metal magazine: 'That was the last time I dressed like that.'
Yahoo News ^ | Mon, August 7, 2023 | Lyndsey Parker

Posted on 08/07/2023 3:33:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway

"There was definitely a double-standard. ... We couldn't be doing the same things the guys did and get away with it," says the singer of one of the few female bands to infiltrate '80s hair-metal scene.

In Penelope Spheeris’s notorious 1988 rockumentary The Decline of Western Civilization Part II: The Metal Years, KISS’s Paul Stanley is interviewed while lounging in bed with a bevy of lingerie-clad groupies; W.A.S.P.’s Chris Holmes chugs a bottle of vodka in a swimming pool; Odin’s Randy O canoodles in a hot tub with bikini girls; Aerosmith’s Steven Tyler and Joe Perry brag about spending millions of dollars on drugs; and Taime Downe, Faster Pussycat’s lead singer and the proprietor of popular Hollywood hangout the Cathouse, admits that women can gain entry to his nightclub faster if they wear “sleazy” outfits.

But when all-female metal band Vixen is interviewed in Decline II, they come across as much more sensible, with drummer Roxy Petrucci even joking that her motto is “sex, drums, and rock ‘n’ roll.” Three decades later, former Vixen frontwoman Janet Gardner — whose story is featured in a new three-part documentary, Paramount+’s I Wanna Rock: The ‘80s Metal Dream — tells Yahoo Entertainment that she and her bandmates never felt they had the freedom to wildly party and let it all hang out in the ‘80s like their male Sunset Strip peers.

“I think that people would've been like, ‘Oh, sloppy, drunk sluts — that’s not appealing!’ But with men, it's cool because they're ‘bad boys,’” gripes Gardner. “There was definitely a double-standard that we had to contend with, but that we were well-aware of. We knew we couldn't be doing the same things the guys did and get away with it.”

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TOPICS: Music/Entertainment
KEYWORDS: 80srock; donate; donatedonaldtrump; donatetrump; gardner; glammetal; glamrock; heavymetal; janetgardner; music; tightwad; vixen
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1 posted on 08/07/2023 3:33:09 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Whooo! that’s a lot of hairspray.

Are they from New Jersey? lol


2 posted on 08/07/2023 3:37:05 PM PDT by one guy in new jersey
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To: nickcarraway
Comment from the story:

"The band is named Vixen and you're concerned about being objectified?"

3 posted on 08/07/2023 3:38:49 PM PDT by Steely Tom ([Voter Fraud] == [Civil War])
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I remember that great documentary, but I don’t remember Vixen. They were proof that any hairband was getting signed those days.


4 posted on 08/07/2023 3:40:17 PM PDT by proust (All posts made under this handle are, for the intents and purposes of the author, considered satire.)
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To: nickcarraway

No fatties, no tats, and BIG hair. That’s the way it should be.


5 posted on 08/07/2023 3:42:25 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (We are proles, they are nobility.)
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To: nickcarraway

A lot of “those guys” paid for it in the end...


6 posted on 08/07/2023 3:43:59 PM PDT by Paul R. (You know your pullets are dumb if they don't recognize a half Whopper as food!)
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To: nickcarraway
“I think that people would've been like, ‘Oh, sloppy, drunk sluts — that’s not appealing!’ But with men, it's cool because they're ‘bad boys. There was definitely a double-standard that we had to contend with, but that we were well-aware of. We knew we couldn't be doing the same things the guys did and get away with it.” - Griped Janet Gardner

On the plus side, Janet, no incurable STDs, no herpes, no unwanted pregnancies, a much healthier lifestyle overall, and a lot more happiness. Why gripe about all those positives?

7 posted on 08/07/2023 3:44:42 PM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (We are proles, they are nobility.)
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To: nickcarraway
Lita Ford was way better. She's the ultimate metal rock babe.


8 posted on 08/07/2023 3:44:45 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: nickcarraway
But when all-female metal band Vixen is interviewed in Decline II, they come across as much more sensible, with drummer Roxy Petrucci even joking that her motto is “sex, drums, and rock ‘n’ roll.”

And that sums up the reason why female hair bands were always considered lame by me and my peers. The biggest demographic for it was young white males, and the females that liked it were, for the most part, shall we say loose and in it for the sex. Again, not all girls, but most. We didn't want more sensible, we wanted larger than life promiscuous party animals who could get any hot girl they wanted, drive awesome fast cars, say FU to the man, and do what they wanted, ie, every teen's dream. And that wasn't the chick bands.

9 posted on 08/07/2023 3:45:46 PM PDT by cport (How can political capital be spent on a bunch of ingrates)
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Who says yes or no to sex?

Thats why its different.

A key that fits all locks is a master key.

A lock that accepts all keys is a crappy lock.


10 posted on 08/07/2023 3:46:09 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: dfwgator

Uh, okay, but what does kissing someone deadly mean? And how come she can only count to two?


11 posted on 08/07/2023 3:46:13 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: nickcarraway

Who cares?


12 posted on 08/07/2023 3:47:24 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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To: Secret Agent Man
Who says yes or no to sex?

Traditionally, it's the woman.

13 posted on 08/07/2023 3:47:44 PM PDT by nickcarraway
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To: ProtectOurFreedom

Your right

They look like nice clean cut girls !!!


14 posted on 08/07/2023 3:49:27 PM PDT by Tennessee Nana
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To: nickcarraway

Vixen gets the Beavis and Butthead Treatment

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GaJ-99qZ6IQ


15 posted on 08/07/2023 3:49:28 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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I dressed like a whore, in a band named “Vixen,” and (boo hoo) they objectified me.


16 posted on 08/07/2023 3:51:08 PM PDT by AAABEST ( NY/DC/CA media/political/military industrial complex DELENDA EST)
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To: one guy in new jersey
#2: "Are they from New Jersey? lol"

It sure looks like it. Ask them which exit they're from.

17 posted on 08/07/2023 3:52:49 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: nickcarraway

Women decide. They are the gatekeepers.

Thats why they are different standards.


18 posted on 08/07/2023 3:53:56 PM PDT by Secret Agent Man (Gone Galt; not averse to Going Bronson.)
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To: nickcarraway
Totally average girls dressed up in costumes.

19 posted on 08/07/2023 3:54:45 PM PDT by Governor Dinwiddie (LORD, grant thy people grace to withstand the temptations of the world, the flesh, and the devil.)
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To: one guy in new jersey

Only good band from Jersey is The Smithereens. (RIP, Pat!)


20 posted on 08/07/2023 3:55:18 PM PDT by dfwgator (Endut! Hoch Hech!)
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