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UFO-curious lawmakers brace for a fight over government secrets
The Hill ^ | ELLEN MITCHELL

Posted on 07/30/2023 11:43:24 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

A bipartisan group of lawmakers on the House Oversight Committee say a high-profile hearing on UFOs is just the start of their push for answers.

And they are threatening to use heavier handed tactics if the Pentagon and intelligence agencies stand in their way.

Reps. Anna Paulina Luna (R-Fla.), Matt Gaetz (R-Fla.), Tim Burchett (R-Tenn.) and Jared Moskowitz (D-Fla.) want more information on unidentified anomalous phenomena (UAP) — commonly referred to as UFOs — beginning with new laws, a classified hearing and the possible creation of a select committee.

The lawmakers said they are willing to use subpoena power if needed to get the answers they’re seeking from the federal government.

“If there’s not a cover up, the government and the Pentagon are sure spending a lot of resources to stop us from studying it,” Burchett told The Hill.

[...]

To get the information from Grusch — who said he was unable to discuss specifics on what he told the Pentagon’s watchdog arm — lawmakers want to sit down with the former official in a sensitive compartmented information facility (SCIF) to get additional information from him.

The group has been blocked, however, by officials that have informed them that Grusch doesn’t currently have security clearance to discuss the issues in a SCIF, according to Burchett.

[...]

Burchett also made an attempt to put an amendment into a Federal Aviation Administration bill to improve air travel, passed July 20, that would have required UAP sightings be reported to Congress. The initiative was blocked, which Luna said was an indication that “we clearly have a battle ahead of us.”

Another avenue for lawmakers should they not receive access to a SCIF would be invoking the Holman rule.

During Wednesday’s hearing Rep. Andy Ogles (R-Tenn.) vowed to do just that, saying that he would “personally volunteer to initiate the Holman rule against any personnel, or any program, or any agency that denies access to Congress.”

The Holman rule is a House power through which they can strip the salary of a specific government position, fire civil servants or cut a particular program.

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To: GingisK

If these clwons have “alien technology” they are making piss poor use of it.

https://www.defensenews.com/air/2020/06/24/the-f-35-lightning-ii-cant-fly-in-lightning-once-again/


61 posted on 07/30/2023 12:53:26 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: cgbg

Maybe it is just like the NAZI officers who were happy with strict compartmentalization. It kept them out of the hangman’s noose.


62 posted on 07/30/2023 12:55:26 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

I don’t know how much you know about the proposed amendment to the NDAA—but is off the charts outstanding—insists on declassification of all documents and physical remains of all legacy programs and specifically mentions “non human intelligence”, “advanced technology” including minute descriptions of what that technology would look like, even includes biological samples.

The amendment takes my view—if it is fifty to eighty years old then it is time to declassify all of it now.

The “national security” excuse is aging badly, particularly since Russia and China have their own artifacts.


63 posted on 07/30/2023 12:57:24 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Reverend Wright
At this point in time they can't disclose it for general consumption. In WWII we lost many men in battles we knew were coming, just to protect other secrets and sources. This is the very same thing.

Answer my three questions, please.

64 posted on 07/30/2023 12:57:40 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: cgbg

Thanks. I’ll go look that up.


65 posted on 07/30/2023 12:58:47 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Reverend Wright

I know you won’t believe a word of this, but here is a link that answers all your questions—just for the record:

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=t564HRXeS6o

Someday you will remember this discussion...and say “they did tell me, and I didn’t believe it at the time”.


66 posted on 07/30/2023 12:59:36 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Reverend Wright
Also, the high technology is not being used for the good of the Nation. It appears to be sequestered by people who do not answer to The People. The F-35 was developed because THOSE guys don't know about the secret stuff. It has been withheld from us peons. The Pentagon does not, in general, know about ET materials. It is compartmentalized outside of their need to know.
67 posted on 07/30/2023 1:03:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: RoosterRedux

This UFO nonsense is nothing but an attempt to distract us from the real Democrat crime issues.


68 posted on 07/30/2023 1:12:48 PM PDT by AlaskaErik (There are three kinds of rats: Rats, Damned Rats, and DemocRats.)
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To: GingisK

These guys (who lean left of us for sure) do have an excellent discussion of the NDAA language in the first half of their podcast—you can skip the first ten minutes or so:

https://podbay.fm/p/liminal-phrames/e/1690041600


69 posted on 07/30/2023 1:12:54 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Openurmind

“And a lot of blocking if the agenda is supposed to be a distraction.”

You’ve got it — a distraction.


70 posted on 07/30/2023 1:13:20 PM PDT by cymbeline
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To: AlaskaErik

Most of us can multi-task.

It is part of what adults do.


71 posted on 07/30/2023 1:14:00 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: AlaskaErik

Do you know anyone who is distracted? I know about ALL of the other issues in the news. The MSM isn’t following this topic at all. So, please, just who is being distracted?


72 posted on 07/30/2023 1:17:32 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

You may want to watch https://youtu.be/p2hk8Qp8dd0 which is an interview of Dr. Steven Greer on the Shawn Ryan show it points out who and what is involved in that UFO mystery and why some of those shadow outfits “Loosely” associated with large industrial complex companies do whatever they can to continue with heir illicit programs and try to escape governmental oversight and can continue gobbling up enormous unaccountable amounts of our tax Dollars. It is worth watching and may answer many questions what we have been wondering about.


73 posted on 07/30/2023 1:17:53 PM PDT by Saintgermain
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To: cgbg

Most of us can multi-task.

It is part of what adults do.


This is true of Repub politicians. They can hold fake hearings on DOJ crimes, and then do nothing.

And they can hold hearings on non-existent space aliens, and then do nothing !


74 posted on 07/30/2023 1:17:55 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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To: Saintgermain

I have already watched that. Thank you for the link.


75 posted on 07/30/2023 1:20:22 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Reverend Wright
...on non-existent space aliens...

How is it again that you discard the accounts of so many witnesses? Show me the material that justifies such dismissal.

76 posted on 07/30/2023 1:22:14 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: Reverend Wright

I guess I need to send you another big link—lots of data about scientists pursuing this issue:

https://omega-point.medium.com/loose-threads-af8f652ee8cb

Just bookmark this stuff—someday you might be interested in learning about it.


77 posted on 07/30/2023 1:23:06 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: cgbg; Reverend Wright
...someday you might be interested in learning about it...

I suspect he is a government shill. He asks questions, but never answers them.

78 posted on 07/30/2023 1:25:28 PM PDT by GingisK
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To: GingisK

The reason I post the links is primarily because of the lurkers out there—gives them an opportunity to dig into this stuff if they choose to do so.


79 posted on 07/30/2023 1:27:32 PM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: GingisK

“Show me the material that justifies such dismissal.”

https://www.biblegateway.com


80 posted on 07/30/2023 1:28:55 PM PDT by Reverend Wright ( Everything touched by progressives, dies !)
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