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Retired Navy pilot says unidentified aircraft ‘far superior’ to anything US could develop in next decade
Task & Purpose ^ | JEFF SCHOGOL

Posted on 07/29/2023 5:08:41 AM PDT by RoosterRedux

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To: Openurmind
It was a joke.

That said, accusing the Squirrelly-Men of being in denial aggravates them to no end...probably because it's the truth.

181 posted on 07/29/2023 10:32:34 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Churchjack

I’m just gonna use those images to aggravate people.;-)


182 posted on 07/29/2023 10:33:58 AM PDT by RoosterRedux
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To: Magnum44

At this point, Post #100, comments to/from you have gotten boringly myopic.


183 posted on 07/29/2023 10:34:55 AM PDT by citizen (Put all LBQTwhatever programming on a new subscription service: PERV-TV)
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To: Churchjack

I am most certainly not saying the Communists do not now produce products of all quality, both high and low, because that is demonstrably false.

What I do maintain is that it is not sustainable for the purposes of innovation in a Communist environment.

Communist China has stood on the shoulders of the industrial West by STEALING our methods and technologies, subverting and destroying our industries, and even by eroding the forces that have given us those advantages in the past by toppling (via government subversion via greed and blackmail) those capitalistic forces in the West, and making them non-sustainable.


184 posted on 07/29/2023 10:37:31 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: going hot

I hope you are right, I fear you are wrong.

If an alien spacecraft landed today, I fear scientists today would not accept the craft had technology beyond their capability to understand.

Plus, I think many in our government and around the world would take a hostile attitude toward any aliens that showed up in a spacecraft.

You’re 100% right, what we understand about our solar system, galaxy and universe is only a small fraction of how things really work.

If we do have alien spacecraft and biological beings, that would be the greatest scientific disclosure in human history, if true.


185 posted on 07/29/2023 10:38:31 AM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: RoosterRedux

“That said, accusing the Squirrelly-Men of being in denial aggravates them to no end...probably because it’s the truth. “

I know, but that defensive tactic would not be required if they did not “go out of their way” to aggressively try and squash all discussion about it. The ones I’m getting a kick out of are those who come take the first swing and then cry like babies that “they” are the poor victim when we swing back.


186 posted on 07/29/2023 10:39:42 AM PDT by Openurmind (The ultimate test of a moral society is the kind of world it leaves to its children. ~ D. Bonhoeffer)
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To: citizen

Well, nobodies forcing you to be here.


187 posted on 07/29/2023 10:41:57 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Churchjack

You believe this is real, I believe it’s hueey. One can’t prove something doesn’t exist, which means it’s on you to prove it does. Go for it.


188 posted on 07/29/2023 10:45:18 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Churchjack

On top of that, I also maintain the ChiComs are engaged in economic and socio-cultural practices that have indeed taken countries to war in the past.

As a form of socio-cultural warfare, they actually like to brag that their flooding of America with Fentanyl is analogous to the way colonial powers flooded China with opium beginning in the 18th Century, and they take great pleasure in this.

Never mind what they do economically.


189 posted on 07/29/2023 10:45:49 AM PDT by rlmorel ("If you think tough men are dangerous, just wait until you see what weak men are capable of." JBP)
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To: Magnum44

“...certain truths exist and are known. Gravity is known.”

Really? What causes gravity? A particle? A wave? A field? You should publish your findings if you know this.


190 posted on 07/29/2023 10:46:40 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: rlmorel

You are correct. And also, the southern border.

I am more inclined to believe that the UAP might be our own, rather than anyone else’s. I hope the proposed hearings, including the select committee that Burchett et.al. have proposed, can de-escalate the National Security State. I am almost to the point that I think most state secrets are pointless; read us all in! Certainly, the level to which things are classified in our own government are going to stifle us in the same ways.


191 posted on 07/29/2023 10:59:36 AM PDT by Churchjack (ask me about the sanctity of pipe organs next)
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To: srmanuel

Just as a side, given the caliber of most of the governments, their composition, and world leaders today, what governments would think and do when presented with alien spacecraft I suspect would be underwhelming, as a representation of humanity.


192 posted on 07/29/2023 11:01:13 AM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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To: MeganC
OMG, a gravity denier.


193 posted on 07/29/2023 11:13:12 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Gravity is accepted but what causes it is unknown.

Sort of like those UFO thingies.


194 posted on 07/29/2023 11:16:06 AM PDT by MeganC (There is nothing feminine about feminism. )
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To: MeganC

Sorry, there is no analogy there.


195 posted on 07/29/2023 11:17:58 AM PDT by Magnum44 (...against all enemies, foreign and domestic... )
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To: Magnum44

Love that pic! But, what is gravity? We’re unsure; we can describe its effects, but not its essence.

I think that might be key to the next materials science/power generation breakthroughs. It looks like someone might already be there.


196 posted on 07/29/2023 11:22:20 AM PDT by Churchjack (ask me about the sanctity of pipe organs next)
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To: Churchjack

The key to thinking about future breakthroughs is this example.

Imagine that scientists have never heard of a radio and one drops from the sky with people’s voices talking on the radio.

How would they study it?

They would take it apart and look for the people!

Why?—because their existing paradigm of physics had nothing in it about radio waves.


197 posted on 07/29/2023 11:26:51 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: marktwain
"Basically an "inertialess" drive.

Please. "Doc" Smith invented that in the 1930s. [/s]

198 posted on 07/29/2023 11:45:01 AM PDT by 10mm
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To: going hot

What would be scary if is some country announced they had successfully reversed engineered alien spacecraft and were prepared to demonstrate it to the public, especially if they showed any offensive military capability

The instability between governments would instantly be off the charts


199 posted on 07/29/2023 12:08:07 PM PDT by srmanuel ( )
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To: srmanuel
As long as an individual or population competes to control each other, take land and resources (good to be king and all that implies) and generally attempt to foist their way of life on other populations, enslave , or simply eat the opposition ANY improvement or technology will be applied to weaponry asap.

That goes up and down the ladder of life on this planet, from bacteria on up.

It likely remains to be seen if these traits are shared off world.

200 posted on 07/29/2023 12:15:52 PM PDT by going hot (Happiness is a Momma Deuce)
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