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Why EVs Are ‘Piling Up’ at Dealerships, Despite Massive Taxpayer Subsidies
Headline USA ^ | July 27, 2023 | Staff

Posted on 07/28/2023 12:12:29 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: Red Badger

you’d have to be a moron to spend $50k on a vehicle whose battery will be dead within the next 5 years... the replacement of which will cost at least $30k.

sorry, i’ll stick with my ‘old fashioned’ car


41 posted on 07/28/2023 12:57:03 PM PDT by sten (fighting tyranny never goes out of style)
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To: Red Badger

Screw the planet.


42 posted on 07/28/2023 12:58:20 PM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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To: Sequoyah101

Expensive?!

Why, if a lowly government worker in DC can afford one, then anyone can.


43 posted on 07/28/2023 12:59:22 PM PDT by texas booster (Join FreeRepublic's Folding@Home team (Team # 36120) Cure Alzheimer's!)
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To: smokingfrog

EVs are very expensive grocery getters, because there are insufficient charging stations for folks to risk on family vacations or any trip over 200 miles.


44 posted on 07/28/2023 1:00:44 PM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: Red Badger

The Lightning is a joke


45 posted on 07/28/2023 1:03:56 PM PDT by butlerweave
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To: G Larry

EV Mustang ?

NERD CAR


46 posted on 07/28/2023 1:05:14 PM PDT by Col Frank Slade
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To: texas booster

Gooberment workers are a myth, they don’t work, they just get paid and well and every single two weeks just like clockwork forever.


47 posted on 07/28/2023 1:05:47 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: sten
EV battery packs have a standard warranty period of 8 years -- and very rare to have a claim.

The federal government requires manufacturers to offer an eight-year/100,000-mile warranty on all EV batteries. California does one better, mandating a warranty of 10 years or 150,000 miles.

48 posted on 07/28/2023 1:09:00 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: smokingfrog

As I understand it, on the Teslas the battery is basically the size of the floorboard, and is also integrated into it....so...

I also hear tesla has their own battery reclamation and recycling program but I don’t know the specific details.

I’ve long thought if the manufacturers would have gotten on the same page early on and all made their batteries interchangeable and could be removed and installed in a timely manner it might have gone a long way in making the things more desirable.

Then you could have battery replacement stations much like the Blue Rino propane tank exchange business model......you don’t own it, you just rent it......but there’s still that pesky spontaneous combustion bug issue. 😏


49 posted on 07/28/2023 1:09:25 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: MtnClimber

“life-size Lego Technic Bugatti Chiron. Powered by 2,304 Lego motors it produced approximately 5.4PS (5.4bhp) and 92Nm (68lb ft).”

That must have been a real speed fest...lol. Probably sounded like a thousand electric toothbrushes.

Not sure that torque rating is correct.


50 posted on 07/28/2023 1:13:49 PM PDT by steve86 (Numquam accusatus, numquam ad curiam ibit, numquam ad carcerem™)
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To: Sequoyah101

Painting with an awfully broad brush there are you my friend?

Many federal civil servants were in the military and served honorably, leaving parts of not only their bodies but also their minds in far away lands to protect our country just so you can sleep comfortably every night.

I worked around many of those people for 30 years and I’m proud and honored have been their coworker.

Do government workers have a deserved bad rep? Yes.....but by NO means not all.


51 posted on 07/28/2023 1:16:03 PM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: Red Badger

I live in car-country LA. I have a hybrid Accord. It’s perfect for the available conditions - lower speeds, lots of stops, freeway traffic, gives me 50+ mpg, day in, day out, normal sized sedan interior, etc. Bought new in 2017 and was priced within a few hundred $ of the gas version. [Touring package - basically all factory options that are offered - only version that was hybrid]. Paid about $34k out the door.

It works for me because I have no need to transport materials [groceries, yes, 3 inch pipe, no], tow stuff, and rarely go on road trips [when I do, I drive my gas powered Jeep].

Its a good technology for the right conditions, but it wouldn’t work outside metro areas / long cold periods [ie 90% of the country] and anyone in trades or transport, and certainly not commercial.

But I firmly believe there’s room for both and advantages to both, from my own personal use and experience.

Never had an EV. The initial cost + charging & range make it a bad econ choice with current technology, so not considered.

See, rational discussion without politics is possible.


52 posted on 07/28/2023 1:16:57 PM PDT by TonyinLA (I don't have sufficient information to formulate a reasoned opinion said no lefty ever.)
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To: MeganC
Me either.



53 posted on 07/28/2023 1:17:07 PM PDT by Tommy Revolts
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To: qaz123
Tesla created secret team to suppress thousands of driving range complaints ....

IMO, anyone who has purchased an EV with full faith in the advertised travel range at full battery charge is a fool and deserves whatever misfortune follows. Gasoline and diesel vehicles usually fall well short of the fuel economy numbers of the window sticker, too - this is nothing new. Caveat Emptor still applies, even when virtue signaling.

54 posted on 07/28/2023 1:23:41 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: MtnClimber
Bugatti Chiron – 8.0-litre W16

I couldn't find any Snow Tires for it?

55 posted on 07/28/2023 1:25:34 PM PDT by G Larry (It is RACIST to impose SLAVE WAGES on LEGAL Immigrants by importing Cheap ILLEGAL Labor!)
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To: V_TWIN

Some people have earned respect and deserve it.

I grew up in a civil service and former military house. Back then civil service could be fired or hit by a RIF. I don’t see much of that going on now. Back then a lot of the jobs were temporary or seasonal. Not so much now.

Agency offices in DC are only 25% occupied. Compared to pre-covid there is probably less than that amount of work getting done. There are plenty of slackers and gold bricks to paint.

I’ve waited two years for a settlement of damages to my pastures by a feral agency. All I got were excuses to covid and office shut downs for lack of progress. Now I don’t get anything. This government is a terrible joke no matter who works for it.

My grandfather said to never work for anyone you didn’t respect lest that rubs off on you. Yeah, gooberment “workers” deserve a bad rap but some don’t.


56 posted on 07/28/2023 1:30:14 PM PDT by Sequoyah101 (Procrastination is just a form of defiance.)
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To: Red Badger

Bet Biden still has all the Jetsons cartoons on a cd’s it’s where he gets all his ideas.


57 posted on 07/28/2023 1:30:42 PM PDT by Vaduz (....)
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To: smokingfrog

The entire floor pan is the battery...u can’t seperate them, as you will have no floor.


58 posted on 07/28/2023 1:46:15 PM PDT by crazycat
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To: Red Badger

I think people are slowly waking up to the fact that, after 7-8 years, you have to replace the battery and that is about equivalent to the original cost of the vehicle. And, on top of that, you have all the other limitations of an EV as well.

No thanks.


59 posted on 07/28/2023 1:52:34 PM PDT by rbg81
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To: ClearCase_guy

“fire sale.”

laughs out loud

Well played


60 posted on 07/28/2023 1:56:00 PM PDT by Samurai_Jack (This is not about hypocrisy, this is about hierarchy!)
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