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I Just Watched 'Oppenheimer'-didn't really like it

Posted on 07/27/2023 8:21:52 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET

I don't know what it is. It's Hollywood's take on the issue. 3 hours. I'm sure they took liberties with the truth. Was his foolin' around with other women important? Perhaps a documentary would have been too boring for people's attention spans.


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To: EEGator

Don’t forget Groves. He put it all together.
Everyone else were middle managers, engineering leads and technicians. Teller and Fermi and loads of other scientists were in there. I love to study this and have been for a long time. If you haven’t heard of the book called “How To Photograph An Atomic Bomb”, check it out.


21 posted on 07/27/2023 8:53:24 AM PDT by lefty-lie-spy (Stay Metal)
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To: butlerweave

Only the last 30 sec of the film had anything close to woke.
Pretty non-political except for the obvious discussions about using the bomb.
This was all part of the history at that time.


22 posted on 07/27/2023 8:53:51 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: DIRTYSECRET

we’ll watch at home. 3 hrs is a long sit for me.


23 posted on 07/27/2023 8:55:02 AM PDT by ronniesgal (friends don't let friends be Kardashians)
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To: mrmeyer

Saw the movie. Liked it but was actually too lenient on Oppenheimer. He had multiple affairs—not just one—during the 40s and 50s.

If he had been anyone else, he would have lost his clearance a long time before he actually did.

I actually admire him as a scientist. But you just couldn’t screw randos and hang out with Communists and expect the government not to notice in the 50s.


24 posted on 07/27/2023 8:55:37 AM PDT by DarrellZero
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To: Fiji Hill
Oppenheimer's questionable associations and his resulting loss of his security clearance are pretty much the heart of the movie. The Manhattan Project is almost a side plot.

The loss of his clearance was portrayed as the result of a personal vendetta on the part of Lewis Strauss, which -- at least according to my reading -- is substantially correct.

McCarthy is mentioned, but I don't think he really mattered much to the story.

25 posted on 07/27/2023 8:57:12 AM PDT by Campion (Everything is a grace, everything is the direct effect of our Father's love - Little Flower)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Was his foolin’ around with other women important?”

It is if your intent is to discredit the man.

Far be it for hollywood to NOT embellish a story to the point of defamation or slander......also, sex sells so.....


26 posted on 07/27/2023 8:57:30 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: EEGator

Agreed.
Teller, Ulam and particularly Fermi made it possible.
I look at Oppenheimer as the project manager.


27 posted on 07/27/2023 8:57:46 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“Casey Affleck and Rami Malek playing secondary roles in the film after being leading men in other movies. Work in Hollywood’s gotta be hard to come by.”

It’s because it’s a Christopher Nolan film. Actors will do pretty much anything to get a part in a film by a really good director like him, even taking a smaller part, or a lower salary than they normally get.


28 posted on 07/27/2023 8:57:48 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Fiji Hill

The best evidence seems to be that Oppenheimer joined the American Communist party in the 1930s and left it in 1942. And that the Soviets quit attempting to recruit him as an intelligence asset in 1942, and that effort had never been successful before that. Oppenheimer - once a Communist, yes, but not likely ever a soviet spy.


29 posted on 07/27/2023 8:57:50 AM PDT by Wuli
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To: Fiji Hill

Lots of accurate discussion about his communist connections.


30 posted on 07/27/2023 8:58:24 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: LS

Worth seeing LS!


31 posted on 07/27/2023 8:58:49 AM PDT by Zathras
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To: DIRTYSECRET
Churchill after WW2 was won. Bush ‘41 after Kuwait. Trump. Trent Dilfer-lol.

Yes, Trent got a raw deal. Especially since the Ravens did not have a QB in waiting to take his place.

32 posted on 07/27/2023 9:00:17 AM PDT by Rummyfan (In any war between the civilized man and the savage, support the civilized of man.)
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To: ronniesgal

“we’ll watch at home”

Heard that, where I can pause it at my discretion, don’t have to pay $20 for $3 worth of soda and popcorn while being disturbed by inconsiderate rude azz people.

Can you tell I’m an old dude? 😏


33 posted on 07/27/2023 9:00:50 AM PDT by V_TWIN (America...so great even the people that hate it refuse to leave!)
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To: mikey_hates_everything

Yeah, that’s pretty much every Nolan movie. The sound is going to be intense, and even worse in an IMAX theater. It seems to be getting progressively worse too. I had trouble understanding only a few parts of “The Dark Knight Rises” but I couldn’t understand about 1/3 of the dialogue of “Tenet” because of the booming soundtrack blasting over it.


34 posted on 07/27/2023 9:01:12 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: DIRTYSECRET

Movies/TV series about the Manhattan Project are plentiful:

1) “Above and Beyond” (1952)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0044324/?ref_=fn_al_tt_2

2) “Oppenheimer” (TV mini series) (1980)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0078037/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_5_nm_3_q_oppenh

3) “Enola Gay: The Men, the Mission, the Atomic Bomb” (1980)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0080689/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_37_act

4) “Day One” (1989)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097159/

5) “Fat Man and Little Boy” (1989)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0097336/?ref_=nm_flmg_t_19_act

6) “Hiroshima: Out of the Ashes” (1990)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0099772/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_6_tt_8_nm_0_q_hiroshima

7) “Hiroshima” (1995)

https://www.imdb.com/title/tt0113309/?ref_=nv_sr_srsg_3_tt_8_nm_0_q_hiroshima


35 posted on 07/27/2023 9:01:45 AM PDT by DFG
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To: Zathras

“unless you like boobs 10’ tall”

There are people that don’t???


36 posted on 07/27/2023 9:02:09 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: Zathras

Nolan’s an odd one when it comes to politics. He usually doesn’t put much of it in his films, and if he does, he’s not one to make it “in your face” or too obvious. And sometimes you can tell he may be making a political statement, but it’s a bot ambiguous as to which way he is coming down on the issue.

For example, I’d say “The Dark Knight Rises” was his most overtly political film, coming right as the “Occupy Wall Street” protests were happening, with antagonists that mimicked the real world activists’ sloganeering and were basically just engaging in the same activities, but in a more direct and violent way. But does that mean he was endorsing their cause? Or was he trying to show the pitfalls of pursuing that cause “by any means necessary”? After all, these were not the heroes of the film, or even anti-heroes (except for Catwoman, who ended up disavowing the violence and helping the hero fight them in the end). They were clearly portrayed as villains, and unredeemable villains (except for Catwoman).


37 posted on 07/27/2023 9:07:21 AM PDT by Boogieman
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To: lefty-lie-spy

I will, thanks for the heads up.

I did nuclear test ban treaty monitoring in the USAF, so I
have great interest in the subject.

If you like watching the explosions, Trinity and Beyond is good.
Narrated by Shatner…


38 posted on 07/27/2023 9:07:37 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: Zathras

Two times I’ve prepared myself to go.

Two times, the Spirit told me “don’t go.”

I’ve learned better than to argue with the Holy Spirit.


39 posted on 07/27/2023 9:10:25 AM PDT by LS ("Castles made of sand, fall in the sea . . . eventually" (Hendrix) )
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To: EEGator

And Groves


40 posted on 07/27/2023 9:11:32 AM PDT by wardaddy (Why so many nevertrumpers with early sign ups and no posting history till now? Zot them PTB)
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