Posted on 07/24/2023 8:01:34 PM PDT by DoodleBob
I quit smoking 10 years ago and dont miss it- however, i knew the joys it held, and yes, the dangers it presented but chose to take that risk because of the pleasurable escape it gave while smoking
the point about cars is that you inhale way more cancer causing crap from vehicles than you get from some person walking past you with a cigarette- or from person in a seperated designated smoking section like we had not so long ago-
so should those who drive for pleasure should be yelled at for spewing filthy exhaust into the air? They are causing all manner of illnesses outside in the streets, and we can’t escape their exhaust liek we can escape cigg smoke by being in no smoking sections, or designated areas of parks or even hospital grounds— if they shouldn’t be yelled at- why yell at cigarette smokers? if obese people like to eat, shall we yell at them and demand laws be passed too?
Should there be restrictions? Sure, i guess- but not to the extent of those who want all of it banned- people cope with stress and crap in different ways- some smoke, some drink, some gamble etc- all of which is legal- There are ways to accommodate both sides of he isle
[[Should we bring smoking back on commercial flights so everyone in the fuselage can breathe cancer fumes?]]
Noone is asking anything even close to that- Both smokers and non smokers can be accommodated safely so that folks can go out and enjoy time with others of like mind while having coffee and ciggs, or beer and ciggs while protecting those that don’t smoke as well- there are compromises to be had- to wish a ban on everything because we don’t like it and don’t want to see others doing it is really akin to tyranny -
Scratch a liberal and find a fascist.
“He actually quit a few years ago.”
Why, is embalming fluid flammable?
I'm the enemy. Because I like to think, I like to read. I'm into freedom of speech, the freedom of choice. I'm the kind of guy who likes to sit in a greasy spoon and wonder - "Gee, should I have the T-bone steak or the jumbo rack of BBQ ribs with the side order of gravy fries?" I want high cholesterol. I wanna eat bacon and butter and buskets of cheese, okay? I wanna smoke a Cuban cigar the size of Cincinnati in the non-smoking section. I wanna run through the streets naked with green Jell-O all over my body reading Playboy magazine. Why? Because I suddenly might feel the need to, okay, pal?
And Doc Severinsen
[[Good. The idea that you cigarette addicts can’t put your addiction on hold for time spent in a HOSPITAL of all places]]
Where did i say smokers were smoking ‘in a hospital’? My argument was that those in hospitals who are sick and under a load of stress as a result, they are forced to go cold turkey because of the policies- they used to allow patients who smoked to make their way outside into designated areas, away from hospital entrances to smoke instead of forcing them to go cold turkey for however long they were i n the hospital- but now because of anti-smokers- they aren’t allowed to do that and now have to deal with their illness and withdrawal symptoms at the same time- antismokers don’t give a crap about that though-
Says the guy hocking drug addiction. Bang whores and smoke crack for all I care. Just don't expect to call it "freedom" and not get challenged on it.
In your mind Hunter Biden is the biggest freedom fighter of all time!
He’s 96, played his final concert last year.
I thought you were talking about the family of folks in the hospital—in many cases they are under extreme stress and many hospitals ban smoking on the hospital grounds which can often be the size of small cities.
Btw I have shared my “secret” on how to deal with this a few times.
When I am stuck in one of these fascist strongholds I walk up to a security guard, introduce myself, shake his hand and then ask them where they smoke.
It works most of the time. There is usually a “secret place” hidden from Karen eyes where employees smoke.
That's because I've seen your libertarian argument before, and the conflation of "more government-funded and subsidized addictive substances in society = freedom" is easy to debunk.
You're the type who probably thinks Las Vegas is a symbol of freedom and individual choice, as you dump money into corporate owned casinos.
You either foster an environment where free people understand the choice between growing up healthy and free or growing up addicted and sickly, or you open their eyes to the fact that no good actor tries to get you addicted to deadly drugs for the sake of "freedom".
Teach them to spot the pusher and the drug dealer, whether it's RJ Williams, Brown & Williamson, Pfizer, or a drug dealer on the corner. Also teach them to spot the charlatan who says "destroying yourself is freedom!"
The problem is that we now have “anarcho tyranny” (term coined by Sam Francis) where some “vices” are fine and others are banned or harshly punished—and a bunch of bureaucrats get to pick which is which.
That is pure insanity.
You have a really warped sense of fascism as freedom. Typical 1984 liberal:
War is peace.
Freedom is Slavery.
Ignorance is Strength.
We also expect to see your each morning at 5:30am at the public exercise yard to perform your exercises. It’s good for you.
Cigarettes are nothing but poison, and cigarette companies only exist because they were subsidized by the Federal Government for generations, while they spread nothing but death and destruction.
If you think governments giving people the tools to kill themselves is "FREEDOM!", be my guest. Thankfully not all of us are that imbecilic.
“growing up healthy”
With you defining what is healthy???
When do you get to define what is healthy?
Why do you get to define it?
I bet you are a fat slob who doesn’t have an education. You’ve never read a book such as 1984, but I bet you listen to the most amped up talk radio you can find. Such underachievers typically think they know what’s better for everyone else.
The General Public is. As evidenced by Covid 19.
Nicotine lozenges and patches have been around for decades, and are an easy and cheap alternative to pumping carbon monoxide throughout the hospital.
The heroin addict has the same issue, and they have numerous solutions to deal with those addicts, none of which involved allowing the patient to shoot up street smack in the hospital.
Way off.
Have a blessed day, FRiend.
Indeed
Smoking is coming back and I like the stories stoners love to tell how unhealthy it is by weed doesn’t cause any problems.
When do you get to define what is healthy?
Why do you get to define it?
I bet you are a fat slob who doesn’t have an education.
You're amusing. Your argument is note for note the same as the fat acceptance movement. You're likely an overweight addict who's projecting, as anyone with an IQ above room temperate knows that someone advocating for health and fitness, and not pumping poison into your body, is likely not fat and stupid.
You equate more people smoking government poison with "freedom". A ginger leftist at The Guardian says more people should smoke, and you go along with it, call it "FREEDOM!". Then you call other people uneducated, much like the trans movement who says that transphobes lack an education.
I'm familiar with the language of addicts, so I don't take offense at your ramblings. Addicts who have friends that break their addictions do whatever they can to get their friends to drink, eat, smoke, snort, or shoot again so that they don't have to feel bad about themselves.
A great way to tell who your friends are is to quit drinking. Your real friends will support your decision, while your addict friends will do whatever then can to get you back into the cycle so they don't have to look inward.
Some even, like you, react with anger and blame, and see the world through a tortured lens where the person who is choosing NOT to poison themselves into an early grave is the villain, and it's really OUR fault for not succumbing to YOUR vice.
Seen it before, and all I can say is, I wish you luck in breaking the cycle.
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