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1 posted on 07/16/2023 10:45:52 AM PDT by Signalman
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To: Signalman

They’ll get their way for 2 reasons:

1) We don’t fight.
2) We don’t know how to fight.


2 posted on 07/16/2023 10:47:00 AM PDT by DIRTYSECRET (e allowed )
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[Government] props up EVs with government purchases, propaganda, state subsidies, cronyism, taxpayer-backed loans, and edicts. The green “revolution” is an elite-driven, top-down technocratic project.

That's as good a summary as I've seen. There is very little market demand for EVs, perhaps 5%, tops 10% of the overall market.

But government will simply NOT let ICE and EV coexist side-by-side, regardless of what the market says. They have a new shiny object to ram down our throats.

3 posted on 07/16/2023 10:50:17 AM PDT by ProtectOurFreedom (I don’t like to think before I say something...I want to be just as surprised as everyone else.)
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And that’s fine. I don’t want to stop anyone from owning the car they prefer. I just don’t want to help pay for it.

AND I don't want the existence of their car to stop production of the car I prefer.

4 posted on 07/16/2023 10:50:41 AM PDT by Still Thinking (Freedom is NOT a loophole!)
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The goal is to take away our personally owned vehicles.


5 posted on 07/16/2023 10:53:22 AM PDT by ViLaLuz (2 Chronicles 7:14)
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"Electric Vehicles: Costly Virtue Signaling Forced on America by Left"

Rather than virtue signaling, the Demonicrat kakistocracy's EV indoctrination continues to give aid and comfort to the domestic and foreign enemies of the United States.

6 posted on 07/16/2023 10:53:53 AM PDT by Carl Vehse (Move the Overton window to the right with defenestration.)
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.....Electric Vehicles: Costly Virtue Signaling Forced on America by Left.....

May the new President elected in 2024 (hopefully Donald Trump) utterly wipe out the electric-car and “renewable energy” oppression from America!!!!

Global-warming believers must work on radically new energy technologies, which will be affordable and usable by all—not just the ultra-rich!! (Come on—MIT and Harvard!) If they do not, they are just liars and oppressors!!!!


7 posted on 07/16/2023 10:59:56 AM PDT by Honorary Serb (Kosovo is Serbia! Free Srpska! Abolish ICTY!)
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Our elected republicans ..most of them are okay with EVs replacing the combustion engine...global warming..trans kids..gay marriage ..universal healthcare..street drugs..child trafficking..open borders...name it. They are okay with anything that doesn’t affect them personally. And very little affects them personally. Aa long as the check clears.


8 posted on 07/16/2023 10:59:59 AM PDT by Leep (What skill or service did the biden family have that netted them tens of millions of dollars?)
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This is why auto-makers should have moved more towards the gas-hybrid electric model. This would have been sufficient to bring mileage up in vehicles. There are still some issues with the hybrid model, but drivers would enjoy the higher mileage coupled with the familiar ICE. Ford had an excellent regenerative braking system that worked well on many of its models.


10 posted on 07/16/2023 11:03:48 AM PDT by abigkahuna (Honk Honk. It’s Clown World Out There. )
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Acquaintances from southern CA drove up to Davis for a family member funeral last week. They have an EV and had to stop three times to charge the damned thing taking 45 minutes each stop. On another EV note, auto wrecking yards will not take EVs. What a scam, all meant to shackle our freedom to travel. Now all they need is to loose an EMP on us and that’s coming.


13 posted on 07/16/2023 11:20:56 AM PDT by drypowder
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The Left really thinks EVs are great they’re powered by Magic


14 posted on 07/16/2023 11:37:09 AM PDT by butlerweave
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I will not be forced to own or drive an EV.

I am later in life than most. Probably another 10 to 12 years of driving, for me...


15 posted on 07/16/2023 11:54:35 AM PDT by BatGuano (2020 = Stolen Election. Believe it! Molon Labe.)
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The EV vs ICE argument was settled by about 1920. They had the same issues then as they do now. The big advantage that the EV’s had in the early 1900’s had is that they probably wouldn’t burst into flames and burn your house down.


16 posted on 07/16/2023 12:03:26 PM PDT by wjcsux (On 3/14/1883 Karl Marx gave humanity his best gift, he died. )
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EVs are the new Covid. A gimmick.


17 posted on 07/16/2023 12:15:46 PM PDT by Cobra64 (Common sense isn’t common anymore)
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Remove the EV tax credit and the cost of buying a new EV goes down. EV’s are like everything else: when the government “helps” with tax credits and such, they artificially inflate the price. Remove all subsidies and mandates and let the free market play out.


18 posted on 07/16/2023 12:15:57 PM PDT by Tell It Right (1st Thessalonians 5:21 -- Put everything to the test, hold fast to that which is true.)
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its not about EVs

its about destroying private transportation


19 posted on 07/16/2023 12:24:32 PM PDT by joshua c (to disrupt the system, we must disrupt our lives, cut the cable tv)
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It is worth it to pay twice as much for a car which is half as good to let everyone at Starbucks know you care.


20 posted on 07/16/2023 12:30:56 PM PDT by bray (You can tell who the Commies fear.)
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Hey, if the elites get their way us plebes will be riding bikes, eating algae and bugs and cooling ourselves with paper fans just to help them :save the planet”.


23 posted on 07/16/2023 2:18:28 PM PDT by antidemoncrat
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I just realized that I have a golf cart and live in a 15 minute city with gates. Bastages.


24 posted on 07/16/2023 2:44:22 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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If left to sink or swim in the market, EVs do have a niche - they are probably OK for urban commutes. Wouldn’t want to take one more than 1/2 its range from home, though. And it’s not a free market - there are numerous thumbs on the scale.

And I’ve been in a battery factory - nastiest place on earth. Nobody who sees one would consider vehicles powered by them to be “clean”.


25 posted on 07/16/2023 7:56:54 PM PDT by Some Fat Guy in L.A. (Still bitterly clinging to rational thought despite its unfashionability)
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It sounds like manufacturers are losing money on these overpriced mistakes. That should tell them something. My kind of driving would allow me fair use of an EV, but my finances sure wouldn’t. At the same time my 18 yr. old ICE vehicle isn’t likely to catch fire just sitting in the driveway, either.


26 posted on 07/16/2023 8:12:34 PM PDT by oldtech
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