Posted on 07/14/2023 7:55:05 PM PDT by ConservativeMind
The sound of airplanes flying overhead late at night is linked to a slight increase in hospital admissions for heart-related problems the following day, a study suggests.
Researchers combined hospital admissions and mortality data with environmental modeling to assess short-term associations between aircraft noise and cardiovascular events the following day in a population of 6.3 million residing near Heathrow Airport between 2014-2018.
Risks of airplane noise
They found that a 10 decibel increase in noise during the previous evening and previous early morning was associated with a small increase in risk for all cardiovascular disease admissions. This risk was most prominent in men over the age of 65, and for people of Black ethnicity.
There was no evidence of an association between aircraft noise and deaths due to cardiovascular disease.
Late night and early hour aircraft sound may disturb sleep in locals, which could temporarily increase blood pressure and activate the sympathetic nervous system—responsible for adrenaline and the 'fight or flight' response—potentially leading to increased risk of cardiovascular issues.
Longer term studies have found much larger risks associated with airplane noise.
Professor Marta Blangiardo said, "Heart disease costs NHS England over £7 billion a year, but studies assessing the short-term risks of airport noise on heart health are few and far between."
"Our research suggests that aircraft noise, particularly late at night and in the early hours of the morning, potentially increases risk in cardiovascular hospitalizations."
(Excerpt) Read more at medicalxpress.com ...
The physiological aspects of flight on the human body are numerous.
Wow! :-)
LOL, I get annoyed at constant sound of vacuums! :)
To each his own!
Iconic, futuristic, and as soon as it took off, it was low on fuel.
Yep. 200 a side every 200 miles. Goes like hellfire though. Passes off everyone in North Jersey too!
(Pisses off)
You ain’t heard loud aiplane noises until you have are in a stateroom underneath one of the catapults on a USN aircraft carrier, trying to sleep!
HST, after a while, you CAN sleep through an entire launch sequence!
”The hummm of a huey transmission…”
I felt compelled to respond to this thread as though someone reading this needed to know when this was new and then I lost it. Somehow Ive stumbled back across it. Sorry to call you all back but I don’t want to lose it again. You seem like a group that could become a victim of misguided assumptions by physicians or may know someone else that will be.
More than 15 but likely less than 20 years earlier I began waking up choking on something every time I fell asleep. It wasn’t once a night or even a couple of times, it was repetitively through the night. If I didn’t wake up choking then I had an experience like I could hear helicopters passing by in the distance. Not just any helicopter, it was specifically and unmistakably the two bladed rotor of a Huey.
Over a long period of time across many visits I told the physician that I could feel the object I was choking on. It felt like something relatively flat and rather thin with edges. I couldn’t tell what it was but If I was to guess at something it would be like a plastic bread bag tag or a whole human fingernail.
The helicopters weren’t staying away. As time went on the helicopters came closer and got so much louder. It got to the point that the helicopter was right over me like it landed right a skid right next to me. It was so intense that I wasn’t just hearing it, I was feeling it through my whole body.
After a long time and many visits stumping the physician he told me that it was probably a mental health problem. He even told me that it was probably due to my combat tours in Vietnam. The problem with that diagnosis is that I didn’t serve in Vietnam era and during my time serving I was banned from Vietnam due to clearance. I assumed he had briefly confused me for an uncle a bit older than me that also visited this doctor and when he referred me to some other doctors I didn’t bother to bring it up figuring he would recognize the mistake during charting.
ENTs, neurology, sleep specialist, etc, MRIs, CAT scans, over and over…didn’t take long for me to figure out by the way that I was treated that I was now either that crazy Vietnam guy or the crazy guy that thought he was in Vietnam. Nobody could find anything, I was just making it all up.
It didn’t feel to me like I was making it up at all. As time went by it got worse to the point that when the helicopters came each night and sometimes if I dozed during the day that it awoke me with each pulse of the blade violently shaking me like the whole bed was jumping. Sometimes my entire nervous system seemed to be being shut off and on with the beat of the rotor. I could see it. If you stand next to a light switch in a dim room and rapidly switch the lights on and off with the beat of a rotor. Imagine that you feel like someone has turned you off and just as you are about to collapse someone switches you back on with twice the voltage than normal, over and over and over. Sometimes I could even feel what felt like an inch worm on the floor of my ear canals creeping and creeping but never getting anywhere with the beat of the rotor.
I must be crazy…
One morning I was trying to get ready for work. I was reading FR and having a cup of coffee. I was so tired I didnt think I could move but I had to so I stood up to go change my clothes. Instead of finding myself in a standing position I found myself in my chair rubbing my hurting face. Suddenly I realized that I had somehow smashed my face on the keyboard…then the helicopters attacked.
By the time I arrived at the ER they were gone. The ER physician tried to send me away but I wasn’t going anywhere. The helicopters had never been that intense before, I certainly hadn’t ever blacked out before. I was refusing to leave and they were begrudgingly letting me stay while seemingly trying to just make up things they could send me for to run up the bill while I was there.
Eventually the helicopters came back. I was yelling for help by this point as they had just left me sitting in a room by myself not hooked up to anything. When someone came in I told them to hook me up right away and when the nurse did she started screaming for the ER physician and then things started happening really fast. I remember him saying that my beats per minute was 280 and that people weren’t supposed to stay conscious normally at that point. I remember him saying 290 and saying that people weren’t supposed to be alive with the arrhythmia I was also having. I do remember him saying that my beats per minute had hit 300 and then he apologized for having to use the paddles while I was still awake…
“Well, it sounds like you had tachycardia. I think I would recognize that.”
You would think so. I knew some people that had it and they knew it was their heart. The thing is, I didn’t feel it in my chest, it was a pulse that seemed to go through my whole system and wasn’t any more intense in my chest than anywhere else. It didn’t feel like my heart at all.
If your doctors are saying “sleep disturbances” but using the phrase as an alternative to "sleep disorders" realize that it may be far more than what they seem to be suggesting. If you hear the helicopters even once, go to the doctor and if he cant give you an answer better than “youre crazy” then make an appointment with a competent physician. If the helicopters are “close” then get immediately to an ER and don’t leave until they find it.
When people talk about heart attacks it sounds horrible. Im not saying they are fun but neither it nor the 6 bypasses were anything compared to the subsequent stroke. I was "lucky", the clot blocked an entire hemisphere. Couldn’t move at first, couldn’t communicate in any way, but lucid enough to “KNOW” that all of the staff in the hospital were Russian agents that had gotten around to capturing me and now I had to kill them all to get away. That’s a story in an of itself and since Im still recovering, I guess that I don’t know the end yet.
Don’t risk being me, you might not make it at all. If you do, relearning and recovering is a lot of work and you may not make it this far. Youre not crazy. Your friend that cant seem to get help isn’t crazy. Don’t wait. Don’t risk it. Don’t give up.
BS
If I lived near a big airport, getting dusted with jet exhaust 24/7 would be much more of a concern.
On approach to LAX, they come right over south central part of the city, dusting everything below around the clock.
The noise would be the least of my concerns
At least you don’t have Exploding head syndrome (EHS).
It’s a disorder characterized by the perception of loud noises (e.g. a bomb explosion, gunshot or cymbal crash) when going to sleep or awakening. Contrary to the name, EHS is not associated with pain. However the noise attacks can elicit a great deal of fear, confusion and distress in sufferers. Reports of tachycardia and palpitations are also common. Despite the distressing nature of EHS, relatively little is known about the prevalence and underlying cause of the condition.
https://www.sleepassociation.org/sleep-disorders/more-sleep-disorders/exploding-head-syndrome/
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I knew someone who had EHS and every time their head exploded they could not believe others around them could not hear these massive explosions going on in their head.
I had the double whammy. My berthing space was near an arresting cable machine room and my work space was near a catapult. Like you say, you just get use to it..
No, I guess not.
I did occasionally have “What the hell is that yard stick slapping the kitchen counters and where is it coming from” syndrome but that was so mild compared to everything else I dont know that I even brought it up.
I was already “crazy”, I didnt need to tell anyone about my kitchen ghost too.
In my case, it was undiagnosed sleep apnea, I learned that I've had it all my life (diagnosed in my late 50s)
The turbulent dreams and horrible anoxic sleep feelings are the worst. Except that we can somehow connect the icky sleep disorder symptoms with other things going on.
CPAP (APAP is better) gets a bad rap. It's been my sweet dream machine for nearly 20 years now, and it resets your sleep and good sleep fixes a whole lotta things.
Best to you, my FRiend.
And thanks for resurrecting a fun thread from July!
Thanks for the comeback.
Until it is actually felt and heard, the noise associated with jet aircraft launches and recoveries is virtually undescribable.
But, somehow, someway, we got used to it and pressed on!
I have some high range hearing loss, but am REALLY surprised that I am not deaf.
People that sell hearing aids for a living are trying to convince me that I needem, but, so far, their marketing efforts have fallen on deaf ears!
LOL!
Same here, but some of it could be related to my music listening habits when I was a yute..
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