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2023 Dodge Challenger Black Ghost
www.ericpetersautos.com ^ | By Eric Peters - July 13, 2023

Posted on 07/13/2023 1:09:35 PM PDT by Red Badger

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To: SaveFerris
As I recall the Trans-Am was downgraded to the 305

Maybe just California

California has always been the most heavy-handed with this stuff, so it's quite possible. IIRC, the non-California specs dropped to the 305 if you wanted a manual transmission, but the 350 could be had with the automatic. That never made sense to me. I guess shift points and rpm could be better managed with the automatic (a total farce, since the transmissions were easily modified for little cost).

41 posted on 07/13/2023 4:04:16 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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To: Charles Martel

And they were putting in Oldsmobile 403 when they ran out of Pontiac 400 back then

I had a new ‘78 almost waited for a ‘79 but you could only get a 403 when you got an automatic.

I ordered very late in the year.


42 posted on 07/13/2023 4:09:26 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Well hell - I just remodeled my kitchen, so I guess I’m out.


43 posted on 07/13/2023 4:52:36 PM PDT by 1FreeAmerican
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To: SaveFerris
I do recall the 403 cars, now that you mention it. The engine was reliable, though by 1982 it was getting clobbered by the new Mustang 5.0 H.O. in street races. The 403 cars regularly got engine swaps, though - I knew a Pontiac guy who had a 455 built for one. That was a properly fast F-body.

There was only one that I really lusted after - the '73 Firebird Formula 455 that my friend's mom drove. Ascot silver, dual scoop Ram-Air hood, honeycomb wheels, just amazing. I dropped hints that I wanted by buy it, but they held on to it until I was away at college, then traded it for something tragically boring.

44 posted on 07/13/2023 5:04:15 PM PDT by Charles Martel (Progressives are the crab grass in the lawn of life.)
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People never knew what they had.

I miss the 1970s. Such great cars.

The radio was great, most of the time.

Haven’t seen a guy in a few years. He has a ‘73 or ‘75 SD.


45 posted on 07/13/2023 5:10:42 PM PDT by SaveFerris (Luke 17:28 ... as it was in the days of Lot; they did eat, they drank, they bought, they sold ......)
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To: Red Badger

Comparing a modern car with EFI and computerized everything to a smog-strangled late 70s car is not a valid comparison. After 1970 big V8 s lost a lot of power due to emissions regulations, and technology was a ways off from regaining the lost ground.

As a comparison, my friend’s moms ‘69 Caprice with a 350 made 300 hp. The ‘77 Impala we had with the same engine made 150 hp.

☹️


46 posted on 07/13/2023 5:45:32 PM PDT by Disambiguator
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To: T.B. Yoits; Red Badger; All

If the Challenger is such a winner, why is it going away?


Because nobody wants an electric version?? Chrysler AKA Fiat/Peugeot/Stellantis announced “we are going all-electric” in early 2022 (by 2028):

https://techcrunch.com/2022/01/04/stellantis-airflow-chrysler-all-electric-brand-by-2028/


47 posted on 07/13/2023 5:56:47 PM PDT by Drago
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To: babble-on

Noise? It’s beautiful music.


48 posted on 07/13/2023 6:00:10 PM PDT by 38special (I should've said something earlier)
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To: Disambiguator
Comparing a modern car with EFI and computerized everything to a smog-strangled late 70s car is not a valid comparison.

I didn't get why the author kept trying to compare a '79 T/A to the '23 Challenger.

A modern Honda 4-banger would prob. beat 79 T/A in acceleration and handling.....and fuel efficiency. Different era.

49 posted on 07/13/2023 6:17:23 PM PDT by HonkyTonkMan ( )
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To: babble-on

“Will not be missed”

I agree.

They’re mostly driven by hoodrats and guys who over compensate for what they lack between the legs.


50 posted on 07/13/2023 6:18:09 PM PDT by 2CAVTrooper (Freedom is the sure possession of those alone who have the courage to defend it.)
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To: babble-on

Yea those 5 foot runts that used to drive those super bikes switched to giant expensive pickup trucks.
Their manhood is still in check
but much safer now..


51 posted on 07/13/2023 9:34:08 PM PDT by mowowie
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To: Red Badger

“Unfortunately, you can’t get a manual transmission with the 3.6 V6 (a manual was standard with the last Pontiac 400 in the ’79 Trans-Am). An eight speed automatic is the only transmission with this engine. Even so, it is just as quick to 60 – which it can do in 6.3 seconds”

6.3 is that right? I know it is a heavy car, but that isn’t that impressive. It only has about three tenths on my 201 HP Elantra GT Sport.


52 posted on 07/14/2023 3:39:26 AM PDT by DAC21
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