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To: ransomnote

Great post, MQD, on the fantasy of a 2A citizen uprising a la 1776.

Back then, every citizen could arm themselves equal to the military. Rifles were dismount (if cavalry), one shot...reload.

Even 100 years later, after the advent of Springfield rifles and Colt Revolvers (both new inventions) the citizen was still as well armed as military.

And the military back then, at least until the 1850s or so, could not even defeat the Comanches armed with bows and arrows. (Comanches had military control of the southwest from just west of Fort Worth, Texas almost to southern California.)

There is a role for citizen militias in protecting liberty; and, that would be resistance against foreign invaders. Think BLUE HELMETS.

As you pointed out, a billion unarmed people couldn’t change things in China. I would add that the population of Iraq was as fully armed as Americans, yet had no hope of overthrowing Saddam Hussein without American intervention.

Last point: The need for outside intervention to overthrow tyranny is yet another reason we cannot allow the creation of a world government. (There would be no help...almost no hope...when it became tyrannical as is its clearly demonstrated proclivity.)


2,045 posted on 07/18/2023 9:51:05 AM PDT by Disestablishmentarian (The next war has already started. )
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In the General/Chat forum, on a thread titled Q ~ Trust Trump's Plan ~ 07/10/2023 Vol.465, Q Day 2073, Disestablishmentarian wrote:

Great post, MQD, on the fantasy of a 2A citizen uprising a la 1776.

Back then, every citizen could arm themselves equal to the military.

[SNIP]

As you pointed out, a billion unarmed people couldn’t change things in China. I would add that the population of Iraq was as fully armed as Americans, yet had no hope of overthrowing Saddam Hussein without American intervention.

Last point: The need for outside intervention to overthrow tyranny is yet another reason we cannot allow the creation of a world government. (There would be no help...almost no hope...when it became tyrannical as is its clearly demonstrated proclivity.)

Excellent examples/post. :D

I forgot to mention satellites. Gov has them and we don't. They always used satellites in wars to track enemy movements.

A recent Monkey Werx featured a demonstration of obsolete black ops technology, because they now have newer technology.

But the obsolete technology he demonstrated let the gov 'see inside' buildings and watch the troops on different floors!

Monkey says the gov has flown an unprecedented number of 'survey flights' over the US in the past 90 days (est 12,000). Mind you Monkey tends toward worst case scenarios, but he thinks they are probably mapping the battlefield.

I sometimes think of the phrase, "Biden, insulting F-16 pilots everywhere....." He tells American cittizens that our 2A guns are nothing and we'd need F-16's to defend ourselves against the gov. I imagine the F-16 pilots thinking to themselves, "Nice...now he's implying I'll fire on Americans...."  I recall laughing about the Babylon Bee's followup article talking about Americans going to their local F-16 dealers to purchase them.

2,064 posted on 07/18/2023 11:43:01 AM PDT by ransomnote (IN GOD WE TRUST)
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To: Disestablishmentarian; ransomnote

Regarding China, I will note that the Billion aren’t as connected to the ideas of liberty as we are.

They’ve been under the thumb for thousands of years and have never rebelled without instilling another authoritarian regime. Heavily driven by their Taoist, Buddhist, and Confucionist beliefs.

Even the Kuomintang (KMT) government of the Republic of China had deepstate dictatorship traits which is why so many thought the commies of the PRC was the way to go.

It was only after the fact when their arms were removed that they realized their mistake....and then because the deepstate was in control during Bush I no one bothered to help when they finally made an unarmed attempt in ‘89.


2,069 posted on 07/18/2023 12:00:10 PM PDT by reed13k (For evil to triumph it is only necessary that good men do nothing)
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