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'No Gains For Ukraine, West Lying': U.S. Special Forces Veteran 'Exposes' Ukrainian Fightback
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Posted on 07/10/2023 8:31:58 AM PDT by ganeemead

Kiev needs to take whatever terms they can get and stop the carnage The situation for the Kiev regime is catastrophic now and figures to get worse.


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To: EEGator
These are Dual Purpose Improved Conventional Munitions (DPICMs) cluster munitions for the 155mm artillery.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dual-purpose_improved_conventional_munition

21 posted on 07/10/2023 9:05:50 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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To: DIRTYSECRET

“seal the border”

We need to wall off our money via comprehensive constitutional governmental revenue caps.

One possibility:
Taxes, fines and fees on members of households having incomes of less than the person having the most federal employment income shall not be increased.

Adjustments of up to 3% to property taxation, government fees and fines to compensate for monetary inflation may be made annually.

Mechanisms in lieu of taxation may not be created or expanded by law.


22 posted on 07/10/2023 9:06:33 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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To: ganeemead

Clusters for clusters! And it appears to be a YUGE cluster. Butt hey. Def contractors are making a killing!


23 posted on 07/10/2023 9:06:55 AM PDT by rktman (Destroy America from within? Check! WTH? Enlisted USN 1967 to end up with thisđź’©? đźš«đź’‰)
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To: DIRTYSECRET

No! Once a week a Russian Equipment loss is posted on FR and the Russians have used up all their weapons, twice! So you know the 1st casualty in war is…… the truth. This will not be over Until our leaders have been able to wash every dollar they can get their mitts on….


24 posted on 07/10/2023 9:07:29 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: T.B. Yoits

Thank you.


25 posted on 07/10/2023 9:07:37 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: EEGator

Please stop asking difficult questions. You will make pro-zelensky neocons uncomfortable.


26 posted on 07/10/2023 9:09:44 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politician DeSantis is there to build wealth. Trump is there to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: EEGator

Russia has expressed concerns that the Zelensky regime may commit mass civilian casualties and blame Russia ( this is a real possibility ), so perhaps Zelensky doesn’t need much of a delivery system


27 posted on 07/10/2023 9:11:43 AM PDT by KTM rider (Be Alert Stay Calm Think Clearly Act Decisively )
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To: wiseprince

There’s a poster here who is fine with a nuclear exchange. Of course he’s in his 70’s, which shows his compassion for his countrymen.

Another poster was advocating using special forces to commit terrorist attacks, purposefully, against women and children in Russia.

We have some real winners here…


28 posted on 07/10/2023 9:11:55 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: T.B. Yoits

Biden just blurred out yesterday there is serious shortage of 155mm ammo.


29 posted on 07/10/2023 9:12:17 AM PDT by entropy12 (Career politician DeSantis is there to build wealth. Trump is there to lose wealth to serve people.)
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To: entropy12

Apologies. However I was corrected, in that they can be used as artillery.


30 posted on 07/10/2023 9:12:52 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: KTM rider

It wouldn’t surprise me at all.

Everyone assumed the power plant nonsense was a false flag set up too.


31 posted on 07/10/2023 9:13:51 AM PDT by EEGator
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To: mj1234

Leftists love “unity”—obedience enforced by guns at people’s heads.


32 posted on 07/10/2023 9:17:06 AM PDT by cgbg (Claiming that laws and regs that limit “hate speech” stop freedom of speech is “hate speech”.)
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To: Lockbox

If Zelensky killed hundreds of thousands of his own people, all we would hear in the news is “look at what Russia did” , it would be harder to prove who did it than a stolen US election


33 posted on 07/10/2023 9:18:07 AM PDT by KTM rider (Be Alert Stay Calm Think Clearly Act Decisively )
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To: Forward the Light Brigade

The other day the government claimed they destroyed the last of our chemical weapon stockpile. Maybe they just gave it to Zelensky for his next false flag op.


34 posted on 07/10/2023 9:18:43 AM PDT by Venkman
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To: ganeemead

Biden said the quiet part out loud - the reason he is giving the Ukraine cluster munitions is because we have run out of all other types of munitions to send them so they are all we have left to send.

Let that one sink in


35 posted on 07/10/2023 9:19:04 AM PDT by rdcbn1
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To: Lockbox

You need to improve your math.
Math is sacred btw, and not racist. You don’t think Math is racist, do you?

Russia has used up a very large proportion of its original active force of tanks. Maybe the majority of them, if you go with the Ukraine MOD number, or over half if the Oryx number.

They have since pulled a lot of tanks out of reserve, including T62s and even T55s, both of which have shown up at the front.


36 posted on 07/10/2023 9:22:05 AM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ganeemead
Ukraine has run put of men to put out to take Russian fire.

Enter cluster bombs and nuclear fallout. Force multipliers as EG&G Rotron and Raytheon would print in their brochures.

37 posted on 07/10/2023 9:22:38 AM PDT by blackdog ((Z28.310) My dog Sam eats purple flowers.)
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To: EEGator
"I have a question with regards to cluster munitions.
Don’t they have to be dropped via aircraft?
How’s this going to work?"

Cluster munitions can be deliver via Artillery Shells.

"The United States said it would send Ukraine 155-millimeter artillery shells loaded with explosive grenades called dual-purpose improved conventional munitions, or D.P.I.C.M.s. The shells are designed to break open midair and dispense the grenades over an area to attack both armored vehicles as well as dismounted troops."

Source: NYtimes
38 posted on 07/10/2023 9:24:56 AM PDT by DEPcom (DC is not my Capitol after Jan 6th lock downs.)
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To: Forward the Light Brigade
In time the Ukraine people will dump Mr. Z and make a deal with Putin.

I think we all knew that this was Ukraine's fate the moment Russia started massing troops on the border. Ukraine had no Army to speak of. No training. They had no military equipment. Their economy couldn't cover the costs of war on their own. They were lucky to keep as much territory as they have. But what was the cost in human lives?

39 posted on 07/10/2023 9:28:21 AM PDT by stig
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To: ganeemead

Why do you avoid labeling your threads with the source?


40 posted on 07/10/2023 9:28:48 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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