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'No Gains For Ukraine, West Lying': U.S. Special Forces Veteran 'Exposes' Ukrainian Fightback
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Posted on 07/10/2023 8:31:58 AM PDT by ganeemead

Kiev needs to take whatever terms they can get and stop the carnage The situation for the Kiev regime is catastrophic now and figures to get worse.


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To: xone

Yes they do show up on recon photos. And soldiers show up on video. This has been announced, often. https://www.google.com/url?sa=t&source=web&rct=j&opi=89978449&url=https://www.youtube.com/watch%3Fv%3Dz-X0iY7_UBQ&ved=2ahUKEwj25d6okYWAAxV0-jgGHV8jCl8QwqsBegQICRAB&usg=AOvVaw37C8scRF6DGjUOMQQWhHtT


101 posted on 07/10/2023 3:00:07 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: entropy12

If bribery=influence on the US government, then both Russia and China have lots more influence.

But in fact this is far less important than domestic bribery, or less easily identified influence on politicians interests, which is vastly greater in scale.


102 posted on 07/10/2023 3:05:11 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: xone

We have no idea how many have been destroyed.
My guess is rather few, because there is a lot of shooting being done and there have been under 500 155mm guns delivered to Ukraine (from all sources, not just the US). They are using them very heavily. There are only so many shots you can fire before the piece needs a rebuild.

They are shooting ammo off at a rate the whole US Army did not plan for its 2000 pieces.


103 posted on 07/10/2023 3:12:21 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: ansel12
Russian President Vladimir Putin Met Personally with Wagner Commander Prigozhin on June 29th

https://theconservativetreehouse.com/blog/2023/07/10/russian-president-vladimir-putin-meet-personally-with-wagner-commander-prigozhin-on-june-29th/#more-248677

104 posted on 07/10/2023 3:30:29 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: Lockbox

You ignored posts 61 and 95 to mention that?


105 posted on 07/10/2023 3:46:14 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Pete Dovgan
"Simulators don’t make you ‘flight worthy’ from what I am told"
My brother's high school had a Link Trainer near the end of WWII. He spent a lot of time on it and when fifteen started flying lessons. He soloed on his sixteenth birthday after the minimum dual time required. He said actual flying was a cinch because of the trainer.
106 posted on 07/10/2023 4:16:04 PM PDT by Hiddigeigei ("Talk sense to a fool and he calls you foolish," said Dionysus - Euripides)
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To: wiseprince
I wonder if NATO is willing to give nuclear weapons to Ukraine to allow rhem to defend themselves.

If Ukraine had not agreed with the USA and other western nations to give up its nuclear weapons and intercontinental ballistic missiles based on the promises to protect Ukraine then Ukraine would not have been invaded by Russia.

This war will end efforts at limiting the spread of nuclear weapons. No nation will agree to give up their weapons now that they have seen what is happening in Ukraine.

107 posted on 07/10/2023 5:57:22 PM PDT by freeandfreezing
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To: ansel12

Only mentioned to show how the West reports a situation as the want to further their case. Plus neither side has great info on the other.


108 posted on 07/10/2023 6:01:59 PM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: buwaya

There is overhead imagery of Ukes training out of country?


109 posted on 07/10/2023 7:15:23 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: buwaya
There are only so many shots you can fire before the piece needs a rebuild.

Yep, worn out unreliable and inaccurate. Need DPICM. Excuse/replacement for maneuver. IOW done.

110 posted on 07/10/2023 7:17:31 PM PDT by xone ( )
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To: Lockbox

Your posts don’t seem to make sense.


111 posted on 07/10/2023 7:17:52 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: xone

They repair the howitzers and replace what needs to be replaced.


112 posted on 07/10/2023 7:21:01 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: xone

Why Overhead?

https://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2022/10/14/pictures-british-troops-train-ukrainian-army-recruits-combat/


113 posted on 07/10/2023 7:23:56 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: buwaya

Thanks for the correct information buwaya


114 posted on 07/10/2023 8:27:10 PM PDT by GOPJ (Stop 'gun violence' by stopping and incarcerating criminals.)
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To: xone

155mm DPICM needs as much accuracy as 155 HE. You only get 60-odd bomblets. You get a better effect radius but not that much. Long ago it was explained to me that what you do get is a more “even” effect within that radius, if that makes sense. Also, gunpits become irrelevant. Also, vehicles become more vulnerable, even SPGs, as the bomblets are AP.

I think (we will know more after the war) there is a maintenance cycle going back and forth into Poland, where re-barrelling is done, etc.

Anyway, if they are going through that much ammo, they need the guns to do it with, so they have them. Else there wouldn’t be an ammo problem.


115 posted on 07/10/2023 8:37:16 PM PDT by buwaya (Strategic imperatives )
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To: buwaya

Repairs won’t only be in Poland.

Rheinmetall will build and repair tanks in Ukraine, says CEO
https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/10/business/rheinmetall-german-tank-factory-ukraine/index.html


116 posted on 07/10/2023 9:11:11 PM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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To: Hiddigeigei

Interesting. Usually military pilots tell me the opposite. Perhaps the simulators are just getting better and better.


117 posted on 07/11/2023 4:12:10 AM PDT by Pete Dovgan
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To: ansel12
Your posts don’t seem to make sense.

Neither does the war in Ukraine… current US cost 75 Billion Dollars and counting…

118 posted on 07/11/2023 4:49:30 AM PDT by Lockbox (politicians, they all seemed like game show hosts to me.... Sting)
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To: ansel12; Lockbox
What you have read during the war is that Russia is running low on something such as missiles or tanks or artillery shells, etc., and sure enough, that is evidenced by the slowdown of their use.

😂😂😂


119 posted on 07/11/2023 5:21:42 AM PDT by mac_truck (aide toi et dieu t'aidera)
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To: mac_truck

Russia running short on something when reported by Western news gets supported by the reduction of Russia’s use of that item, from artillery to missiles or whatever.

The electric grid seems to be left alone enough and the Russian shortages are enough that industry is willing to build factories in Ukraine now.

Rheinmetall will build and repair tanks in Ukraine, says CEO

“Rheinmetall will open an armored vehicle plant in Ukraine within the next 12 weeks, shrugging off concerns other Western defense companies reportedly have about building a presence in the country while it is at war with Russia.”

https://www.cnn.com/2023/07/10/business/rheinmetall-german-tank-factory-ukraine/index.html#:~:text=Rheinmetall%20will%20open%20an%20armored,is%20at%20war%20with%20Russia.


120 posted on 07/11/2023 5:26:42 AM PDT by ansel12 (NATO warrior under Reagan, and RA under Nixon, bemoaning the pro-Russians from Vietnam to Ukraine.)
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