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1 posted on 07/06/2023 9:54:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
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Better solution is to PURGE teachers and administrators who have ‘Education’ degrees. Let them go back to school to actually LEARN something credible, like trash sorting.


2 posted on 07/06/2023 9:56:45 AM PDT by BobL (Trump has all the right Enemies; DeSantis has all the wrong Friends)
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But without those requirements a teacher won’t be required to go through a college “education” program and be taught to be a good little leftist.


3 posted on 07/06/2023 9:57:49 AM PDT by RightOnTheBorder
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End the union stranglehold as well. But the best way is to offer choice with competition and public schools will wither on the vine


4 posted on 07/06/2023 9:58:05 AM PDT by 1Old Pro
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Our children are starving for people who can provide them with practical skills that will allow them to build a life for themselves

SURE they are.

Garbage in, garbage out.

5 posted on 07/06/2023 10:00:12 AM PDT by Jim Noble (Make the GOP illegal - everything else will follow)
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Perhaps states could subsidize Education 101 and Education 102 courses.

This might mean second-year students would only have to pay say 75% of two semesters worth of tuition and the states would in turn have plentiful supplies of possible teachers.


6 posted on 07/06/2023 10:03:37 AM PDT by Brian Griffin (ARTICLE I SECTION 2....The President...may require the opinion, in writing)
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The most effective single method to improve public schools is to end government unions. The second is to end totally federal government funding and regulating local schools. The third is to eliminate teachers’ colleges as a credential for employment (which includes licensing).


7 posted on 07/06/2023 10:03:38 AM PDT by arthurus ( Covefe +0+)
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I was taught by the WWII generation until about 1965. They had no professional training. They were very good. Then, along came the college grads. It was a noticable step down.


8 posted on 07/06/2023 10:05:17 AM PDT by Gen.Blather (Wait! I said that out loud? )
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End teacher unions.


9 posted on 07/06/2023 10:05:32 AM PDT by CarmichaelPatriot (Recovering Kalifornian... Loving Alabama!)
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No, end teacher unions. Teachers should still qualify, but that qualification should be merit based, not union or political oriented.


10 posted on 07/06/2023 10:06:01 AM PDT by Reno89519 (DeSantis 2024. Successful Governor, Honorable Veteran, Respectful, Respected.)
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Start with eliminating that fake doctorate, Ed.D. Almost every school principal in my area has one. And don’t get me started on the “Education” majors I went to college with (naturally none in any of my upperclass courses) as an Engineering student.


11 posted on 07/06/2023 10:06:57 AM PDT by mikey_hates_everything
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end unions, license with background check and performance based employment.


12 posted on 07/06/2023 10:08:13 AM PDT by mountainlion (Live well those that did not make it back.)
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> I am an attorney by trade. I have a degree in law, yet I am precluded from teaching about the Constitution in Milwaukee Public Schools. <

I’ll play the devil’s advocate for a moment. I wonder if this guy would be okay with folks practicing law without going to law school, or without getting a law license.

Now on to more serious things. I was a high school teacher for decades. And I see two things of value with teacher licenses.

1. It shows you have a good grasp of the subject matter. My first license was in chemistry. I had to obtain enough credits in the subject, and then pass a state exam to get that license.

I know the ins and outs of chemistry. I know the lab safety rules, and I can answer advanced questions the students might have. And one more thing. I taught for awhile at a private school where no teaching license was necessary. Some of my fellow teachers were quite competent. Some really didn’t know what they were talking about.

2. The license also (theoretically) shows that you know how to teach the subject. And here’s where the problem lies! University courses on ‘how to teach’ are almost always worthless, unrealistic trash.

I dunno. Perhaps an alternative might be to set a rigorous test for each subject. Pass that test, then intern for a semester under the eye of a master teacher. And that internship is important.

College professors don’t need to know how to motivate students. They just lecture away. It’s different in the public schools. You gotta learn the art of how to present a lesson.


16 posted on 07/06/2023 10:15:35 AM PDT by Leaning Right (The steal is real.)
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When I was a kid, my mom took a part time job at a nursery school while my brother and I were at school. She loved working with kids, and the extra money was welcome. She did that for a few years. Then the state moved in and told her that she had to take certain “education” courses so she could continue working there. She had two degrees, but that wasn’t enough for the state.

She quit.


19 posted on 07/06/2023 10:22:29 AM PDT by Fresh Wind (Faux News: "We distort, you deride")
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need parental review of cirriculumn


21 posted on 07/06/2023 10:24:26 AM PDT by Sacajaweau ( )
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Teacher’s unions might declare a foul on that one.


28 posted on 07/06/2023 10:44:13 AM PDT by oldtech
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Just close them.

The time has come for seperation of school and state.


31 posted on 07/06/2023 10:48:34 AM PDT by BenLurkin (The above is not a statement of fact. It is either opinion, or satire, or both.)
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"Want To Improve Public School Outcomes?"

Simple! Only one solution with any possible chance of working...

  1. Shut down every so-called school and the government agencies controlling them...
  2. Burn all "regional" indoctrination asylums to the ground...
  3. Reconstruct the original public education system and "neighborhood" schools...
  4. Begin each school day with the Pledge of Allegiance...
  5. Reintroduce reading, writing, & arithmetic...
  6. Cut salaries so that only real teachers will be educating the children...
  7. Hire ONLY teachers who, demonstrably, love this country, its Constitution, its history, and understand that they are employed by the children's parents...

34 posted on 07/06/2023 11:05:01 AM PDT by SuperLuminal (Where is the next Sam Adams when we so desperately need him)
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Remove compulsory education and the schools will be great again.

It's damning to look at what students learned a century ago versus what passes for education now.

37 posted on 07/06/2023 11:09:01 AM PDT by T.B. Yoits
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Most crapola taught in schools can be learned over the internet.
Reeedin-Writein-Rithmetik

Basic Civics and hands on skills in Camp settings.
Basic home econ and household finance in community settings.
Animals and farming, machinery and structures, manufacturing and logistics, etc . . . all in hands on settings from folks in the field.

Not in a silly classroom, with an over-credentialed stooge leading the group.

really is time to change things in a very big way-


38 posted on 07/06/2023 11:11:04 AM PDT by Macoozie (Handcuffs and Orange Jumpsuits)
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I have a much better idea. Implement a voucher system so parents can opt out of sending their kids to dysfunctional public schools with their marxist teacher’s union.


40 posted on 07/06/2023 11:27:00 AM PDT by FLT-bird
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