Posted on 07/06/2023 9:54:10 AM PDT by SeekAndFind
Better solution is to PURGE teachers and administrators who have ‘Education’ degrees. Let them go back to school to actually LEARN something credible, like trash sorting.
But without those requirements a teacher won’t be required to go through a college “education” program and be taught to be a good little leftist.
End the union stranglehold as well. But the best way is to offer choice with competition and public schools will wither on the vine
SURE they are.
Garbage in, garbage out.
Perhaps states could subsidize Education 101 and Education 102 courses.
This might mean second-year students would only have to pay say 75% of two semesters worth of tuition and the states would in turn have plentiful supplies of possible teachers.
The most effective single method to improve public schools is to end government unions. The second is to end totally federal government funding and regulating local schools. The third is to eliminate teachers’ colleges as a credential for employment (which includes licensing).
I was taught by the WWII generation until about 1965. They had no professional training. They were very good. Then, along came the college grads. It was a noticable step down.
End teacher unions.
No, end teacher unions. Teachers should still qualify, but that qualification should be merit based, not union or political oriented.
Start with eliminating that fake doctorate, Ed.D. Almost every school principal in my area has one. And don’t get me started on the “Education” majors I went to college with (naturally none in any of my upperclass courses) as an Engineering student.
end unions, license with background check and performance based employment.
This.
I was stunned when exposed to the full spectrum of the teaching experience.
There is a lot of slop in the teacher certification requirements; but, it really can't be discarded out of hand.
My experience is that most students would rather not learn anything.
> I am an attorney by trade. I have a degree in law, yet I am precluded from teaching about the Constitution in Milwaukee Public Schools. <
I’ll play the devil’s advocate for a moment. I wonder if this guy would be okay with folks practicing law without going to law school, or without getting a law license.
Now on to more serious things. I was a high school teacher for decades. And I see two things of value with teacher licenses.
1. It shows you have a good grasp of the subject matter. My first license was in chemistry. I had to obtain enough credits in the subject, and then pass a state exam to get that license.
I know the ins and outs of chemistry. I know the lab safety rules, and I can answer advanced questions the students might have. And one more thing. I taught for awhile at a private school where no teaching license was necessary. Some of my fellow teachers were quite competent. Some really didn’t know what they were talking about.
2. The license also (theoretically) shows that you know how to teach the subject. And here’s where the problem lies! University courses on ‘how to teach’ are almost always worthless, unrealistic trash.
I dunno. Perhaps an alternative might be to set a rigorous test for each subject. Pass that test, then intern for a semester under the eye of a master teacher. And that internship is important.
College professors don’t need to know how to motivate students. They just lecture away. It’s different in the public schools. You gotta learn the art of how to present a lesson.
Government unions have very little affect on the teaching process. The problems are many, but unions are the least of them. I've been a high school teacher. Have you?
I earned both my BA and MFA in English. I’ve been paid to ghost write books for corporations, and have worked in editing, finance, tech. About five years ago, I decided to go into education. My years of experience counted for NOTHING.
Instead, I was made to go BACK to school to earn a useless final edgree in education (I went to an EPI program at a local community college...)
I am now SO sick of the education field, and was so disgusted by actually working in a local middle school, that I’ve decided to go back to corporate.
They can have their stupidity and catty cliques. The kids will suffer, but it’s just not worth it.
When I was a kid, my mom took a part time job at a nursery school while my brother and I were at school. She loved working with kids, and the extra money was welcome. She did that for a few years. Then the state moved in and told her that she had to take certain “education” courses so she could continue working there. She had two degrees, but that wasn’t enough for the state.
She quit.
“There is a lot of slop in the teacher certification requirements; but, it really can’t be discarded out of hand.”
In my case, I didn’t oppose the certification, but I do oppose the ‘Education’ degrees. My recommendation is to require a REAL 4-year degree (technical, if they want to teach higher level math or science), and then have them take the needed teaching skills classes at a community college.
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