‘You Really Oughta Go Home’: F-22 Raptor Stealth Fighter Flew Under F-4 From Iran

msn ^ | 07/04/2023

[Chode]

and the Raptor blew out the F-4 pilots eardrums when he blasted him full-bore point blank wi his active radar to announce his presence...

[gundog]

It isn’t audible. It just feels hot. He might get a little beepy sound to notify him that he’s been detected. Or maybe not...

[itsahoot]

You left out the ‘good.’

It is ok you, meant well. {:~)

[Chode]

a full hit like that and the RWR would be shrieking

it was an old Tomcat trick to get vectored to and come up under/behind the Bears and blow their ears out 8^)

[Organic Panic]

“shooting down multiple objects this February, including one Chinese balloon over U.S. airspace”

I would not be bragging about a $350,000,000 aircraft being capable of shooting a slow moving spy balloon.

[FtrPilot]

a full hit like that and the RWR would be shrieking

I'm not so sure.

Iran flys Slatted F-4Es with TISEO. Here's a pic:

The RWR in this version will display F-14s, F-15s, F-16s and F-18s...no problem. However, it probably would not display the F-22.

There is a possibility that an F-22 would display as a 3 dot U in the middle of the RWR screen, depending on the mode selected by the F-22 pilot.

[gundog]

I used to work WCS on F-4Ds. Some of the bosses, without encouraging us to emulate them, would talk about manually following the SPs with the radar antenna, when they did their slow drive-bys on the flightline. They wouldn’t be transmitting. A couple of guys briefly locked onto jets as they were taking off. Active radar was discouraged on the line.

[FtrPilot]

If the radome is open, then it would be very easy to make it look like the radar is tracking the SPs.

Transmitting RF energy on the ground is not a good idea.

[gundog]

Yup. Half-action on the joystick trigger gave manual control of the dish. You could track anything. As I recall, the only time live radar was necessary in flightline tests, the dish would be pinned upwards, to avoid injuries.

That said, there was R/T pulsing radar, and there was CW radar. Two different animals.

[FtrPilot]

CW is what the Aim-7 guided on.

For CW to transmit, the missile control panel (lower left of main instrument panel) has to be on (PWR ON).

[gundog]

Yeah. Continuous Wave was to paint targets and the AIM-7 dish would receive the returns. The CW transmitter was an ugly black lump, filled with cooling oil. .

[Chode]

so getting painted by F-22 radar won’t register???

OK, if you say so...

[Chode]

LOL...

[gundog]

Newbie pilots and WSOs could still sit on the ready line, and play with the R/T radar in the midday Florida sun and burn it up, because no cooling air was applied.

[FtrPilot]

The F-22 has a low-probability-of-intercept radar. The radar employs measures to avoid detection by passive radar detection equipment (such as a radar warning receiver (RWR), or electronic support receiver) while it is searching for a target or engaged in target tracking.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Low-probability-of-intercept_radar

The F-4 RWR was not very sophisticated.

[Chode]

thx

[jmacusa]

Ain’t that the truth.

No body can write no good no more no how.

Shame what with all them younguns going to college and a gettin’ all that fancy book learnin’.