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19 November 1863.

"But, in a larger sense, we cannot dedicate, we cannot consecrate—we cannot hallow—this ground. The brave men, living and dead, who struggled here, have consecrated it far above our poor power to add or detract."

4 March 1865

"With malice toward none with charity for all with firmness in the right as God gives us to see the right let us strive on to finish the work we are in to bind up the nation's wounds, to care for him who shall have borne the battle and for his widow and his orphan ~ to do all which may achieve and cherish a just and lasting peace among ourselves and with all nations."

1 posted on 07/01/2023 1:26:59 PM PDT by DUMBGRUNT
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Dumb analogy. Minus the obvious Civil War, Constitutionally this country is about where it was in 1858.


2 posted on 07/01/2023 1:35:51 PM PDT by usafa92 (Donald J. Trump, 45th and 47th President of the United States of America!!)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

Abraham Lincoln suspended many rights, suppressed the freedom of press, and called upon federal volunteers to fight a war against fellow citizens.

Young men responded in droves to fight for the Federal Government then. Is there the same fidelity to the federal government today?


3 posted on 07/01/2023 1:38:27 PM PDT by Bayard
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To: DUMBGRUNT

“At the doorway I saw a huge stack of amputated arms and legs, a stack as high as my head!”

How many were black? Female?


5 posted on 07/01/2023 1:43:22 PM PDT by alternatives?
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To: DUMBGRUNT

On July 4th you should be focusing on the American Revolution - not the Civil War.

The basic premise of the article is spot on: The claim that “it’s never been this bad” is a Big Lie.

But the core of that lie is the false claim that systemic racism fatally infected our Founding and the Constitution.

The Civil war was tragic indeed, and there are important lessons to be learned from it. However, it is also a fact that the history of the Civil War has been weaponized to promote the Big Lie of systemic racism in our Founding.

The proper focus on Independence Day is the War of Independence.


6 posted on 07/01/2023 1:46:07 PM PDT by enumerated (81 million votes my ass)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

There’s your reparations right there. Paid for in blood.


7 posted on 07/01/2023 1:50:02 PM PDT by cuban leaf (My prediction: Harris is Spiro Agnew. We'll soon see who becomes Gerald Ford, and our next prez.)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

An equally important battle came to a close on the same day at Vicksburg.


8 posted on 07/01/2023 1:50:11 PM PDT by fella ("As it was before Noah so shall it be again," )
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To: DUMBGRUNT

slave state lee

is attacking Christian liberated Russia

via ukraine

slave state northerners

by the majority

are supporting them ( orcs - overlords )


15 posted on 07/01/2023 2:33:20 PM PDT by Firehath
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To: DUMBGRUNT

bkmk


19 posted on 07/01/2023 2:48:48 PM PDT by sauropod (“If they don’t believe our lies, well, that’s just conspiracy theorist stuff, there.”)
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To: DUMBGRUNT

The area around Gettysburg is still beautiful today. Worth a trip.


23 posted on 07/01/2023 3:33:49 PM PDT by DeplorablePaul
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To: DUMBGRUNT

July 2, 1863 - Day 2- my great great grandfather James Edwards Jones of the 8th New Jersey, wounded.
My 9th great grandfather Derick Hollenbeck 8th Albany Militia was on duty at West Point when his Commanding Officer Benedict Arnold committed his treason and was there when British Spy Master John Andre was executed in September/October 1780.
John Hollenbeck, my 8th great uncle served in the War of 1812.

These men make me proud of my family and my country.


35 posted on 07/02/2023 10:36:43 AM PDT by jmaroneps37 (Freedom is never free. It must be won rewon and jealously guarded.)
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