Posted on 06/28/2023 6:05:18 AM PDT by ConservativeInPA
(e) Whoever having unauthorized possession of, access to, or control over any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note relating to the national defense, or information relating to the national defense which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation, willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted, or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it, or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
which information the possessor has reason to believe could be used to the injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation,
This is what passes as Espionage. Yes, it is part of the Espionage Act, the same law that President Wilson signed into law and persecuted over 2,000 American citizens that he saw as political enemies. We all know that Biden would never do that to his primary political rival.
Lawyers are particularly welcome, as I am not a lawyer. My question of greatest interest pertains to the part quoted above. Does Jack Smith have to prove that Trump could have used the documents to injury of the United States or to the advantage of any foreign nation? Is this the intent? Can Trump just be found guilty of retaining documents? (Even though there are defenses for the retention aspect of the charged.)
I saw “unauthorized possession of” and concluded - there goes their case. He was the president.
I also heard the ‘audio clip’ that’s being hyped. I heard people laughing when he said, this is classified. Secret. I can imagine him waxing hyperbolic on the ridiculousness of most classification, and holding up a menu and saying, ‘This is classified. Secret.” Especially as they now say they don’t have the ‘document’ he was supposedly displaying at the time.
Why do Freepers give crediblity and even discuss the minutiae of a POLITICAL WITCH HUNT and fake indictment with “Trumped up” charges that are going to be thrown out or jury nullified?
I’m not an attorney, nor have I stayed at a Holiday Inn Express in years, but would they maybe have an audio clip of President Trump admitting this? Or, just ask him? Again, this presumes he was waiving around classified documents, not just golf course plans, newspapers, and magazines as he now claims.
That statute was not enacted to apply to this situation.
I dont care . It is all BS. I won’t discuss a witch hunt. Gives it cred where none is due.
There is no way in Hell that Trump is guilty of violating that law. No way.
You know this. The document about the Iran invasion schedule that Trump waved around WAS NOT IN THE INDICTMENT. My guess is the audio is not in evidence either. It’s a leaked hit job and you Desantis fluffers are stroking it for all it is worth. Make sure you turn your head at the right time.
>I also heard the ‘audio clip’ that’s being hyped. I heard people laughing when he said, this is classified. Secret. I can imagine him waxing hyperbolic on the ridiculousness of most classification, and holding up a menu and saying, ‘This is classified. Secret.” Especially as they now say they don’t have the ‘document’ he was supposedly displaying at the time.<
He was not indicted for possessing classified documents. This audio file would most certainly never be allowed into evidence on it’s own and the snake Smith knows it. This is merely to taint the jury pool.
I would expect in voir dire for the jurors to be asked if they heard any leaked audio of the case.
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Unacceptable when you have the democrat shenanigans we all know about.
Oh, wait. My bad. Jack Smith doesn’t have the Iran Attack Plan document to enter into evidence and the audio tape doesn’t show anyone reading the document or how Trump would harm the U.S. or aid Russia or any other nation.
Please take a moment, read counts 1-31 of the indictment, listen to the audio tape (I believe that goes along with count 1), and then read the law.
That's the part that kills me--the irony of him holding up a copy of The New York Times with a front page story of leaked info effectively saying "this is what Jack Smith wants to prosecute me for. Its on the freaking front page of the NYT!"
Some formating can make a law easier to understand.
18 U.S. Code § 793 -
Gathering, transmitting or losing defense information
(d)Whoever,
>lawfully having possession of, access to, control over, or being entrusted with any document, writing, code book, signal book, sketch, photograph, photographic negative, blueprint, plan, map, model, instrument, appliance, or note
>>relating to the national defense,
>>or information relating to the national defense
>>>which information the possessor has reason to believe
>>>>could be used to the injury of the United States
>>>>or to the advantage of any foreign nation,
>willfully communicates, delivers, transmits or causes to be communicated, delivered, or transmitted or attempts to communicate, deliver, transmit or cause to be communicated, delivered or transmitted the same to any person not entitled to receive it,
>or willfully retains the same and fails to deliver it on demand to the officer or employee of the United States entitled to receive it; or
https://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/text/18/793
depends on the selcted jury, like all democrats
“New IDF intel unit preparing for possible Israel-Iran war”
“Every day we gather more targets and objectives at a satisfying pace and learn how to strike them effectively. We have already doubled the target bank in Iran.”
https://www.ynetnews.com/article/sjkrobxp3
Mr. President, the Israelis have already blown that to bits, and that, and that.
What can we do?
Let’s have some ice cream, Mr. President.
What if they put this out in Elko, Nevada, or somewhere in the midwest?
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